Comments on: Flash of Hindsight – An Introduction to Abundance Trading https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/flash-of-hindsight-an-introduction-to-abundance-trading/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Mon, 29 Nov 2010 03:57:57 +0000 hourly 1 By: Kristoffer Jonassen https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/flash-of-hindsight-an-introduction-to-abundance-trading/#comment-3434 Tue, 31 Aug 2010 09:18:50 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1429#comment-3434 Thanks a lot for this article, this is probably the greatest article that has been written, like ever! Me and my friends just went to GP Gothenburg and managed to get rid of our bulk (which was quite a lot i'll tell you), suddenly we didn't have 2000 bulk rares, but a Tabernacle an Abyss and Duals! Great way to trade up!

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By: ymmij1950 https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/flash-of-hindsight-an-introduction-to-abundance-trading/#comment-3433 Sat, 28 Aug 2010 00:51:01 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1429#comment-3433 How does the condition of a card factor into "Abundance" trading. When selling to a online shop, doesnt that $.10 rare that is NM- become worth nothing?

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By: Ben https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/flash-of-hindsight-an-introduction-to-abundance-trading/#comment-3431 Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:32:34 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1429#comment-3431 yeah dave i saw that shit at xanadu after i stripped the kid of his legit bulks i was geekin out when you were pickin up $2-3 cards at $.10 a pop. btw my bulk to power is already sitting pretty at a jace beleren aluren and some other randomness. good scrawlings buddy, i look forward to reading the next one

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By: hawaii https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/flash-of-hindsight-an-introduction-to-abundance-trading/#comment-3430 Mon, 16 Aug 2010 02:21:12 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1429#comment-3430 Man, is there any way to hide this before this goes premium?

Great stuff. You guys are budgeting for coming out to honolulu next year right?

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By: MtgVeteran https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/flash-of-hindsight-an-introduction-to-abundance-trading/#comment-3429 Sat, 14 Aug 2010 03:51:29 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1429#comment-3429 This is definitely the reason I don't want to tell my friends about QS, and why I look forward to subscribing to future premium content.

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By: Kelly https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/flash-of-hindsight-an-introduction-to-abundance-trading/#comment-3428 Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:57:12 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1429#comment-3428 Yeah, and sometimes people pick cards that are not bulk. That being said, you're not saying "give me every card worth 10 cents on some nebulous open market". You're saying "I'll take any rare at 10c, but these are the ones I want more than that". When they pick out non-bulk rares, thats OK. It's their decsiion. Not yours. Those trades are like rocket fuel.

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By: David Heilker https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/flash-of-hindsight-an-introduction-to-abundance-trading/#comment-3427 Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:03:26 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1429#comment-3427 In reply to Jonathan Medina.

Thanks for the pointers, Johnny.
Excellent idea on "making it a game."

Just FYI, I got 9 pithing needles and 6 Broodmate Dragons, @ a dime a piece.

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By: David Heilker https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/flash-of-hindsight-an-introduction-to-abundance-trading/#comment-3426 Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:01:46 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1429#comment-3426 In reply to John Ugalde.

John Ugalde, ladies and gentlemen.

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By: David Heilker https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/flash-of-hindsight-an-introduction-to-abundance-trading/#comment-3425 Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:01:06 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1429#comment-3425 In reply to Michael Poon.

Mike,
I understand the psychology of trading does dictate that this could be the case sometimes, but it's important to understand for every person you *think* won't do this, there are 3-4 who will. Bulking Mythics was something I hadn't considered seperately, but yes, if you can get them cheap, it sounds good!

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By: David Heilker https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/flash-of-hindsight-an-introduction-to-abundance-trading/#comment-3424 Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:57:35 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1429#comment-3424 In reply to Léo Fugazza.

Thanks for the great idea, Leo!

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By: David Heilker https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/flash-of-hindsight-an-introduction-to-abundance-trading/#comment-3423 Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:56:47 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1429#comment-3423 In reply to andrea.

Where dyou live? It's difficult to believe that you don't have better access to Grand Prixs than most Americans – and there has to be like a european equivalent of Gen Con and Origins – oh, and Nationals is usually a good place to see vendors, too.

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By: David Heilker https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/flash-of-hindsight-an-introduction-to-abundance-trading/#comment-3422 Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:54:49 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1429#comment-3422 In reply to the_cardfather.

I mean – you're not usually allowed to buy/sell on a convention floor – you have to be a little surreptitious, but I don't *endorse* it, unless you've previously arranged this (prior to the event). I would say that it's a good idea to Abundance Trade for collections, as we're trying to avoid spending non-budget cash on cards here anyway.

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By: Jonathan Medina https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/flash-of-hindsight-an-introduction-to-abundance-trading/#comment-3421 Fri, 13 Aug 2010 08:27:43 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1429#comment-3421 Nice Article bro!

I love me some bulk! I would also like to meet this buddy of your with the Emerald – I want it and since he's a trader I am sure we can work something out.

One thing I wanted to share with your readers is that http://www.trollandtoad.com buys bulk at .14 cash money!

Another technique that I use to help some people cope with the idea of bulking is that I let them chose the cards. I say I will give you .10 a piece on any card with a gold sylmbol. This encouges people to make a game out of it, trying to find the jankiest crap to give you for your tier 1 card.

Good Job on the Article. Later dude!

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By: andrea https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/flash-of-hindsight-an-introduction-to-abundance-trading/#comment-3420 Fri, 13 Aug 2010 07:27:48 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1429#comment-3420 about premium: oh no, another site i'm willing to pay for… i'll go bankrupt 😛
about article: i do appreciate this kind of articles, but i continue wondering if i'll ever be able to apply them – where i live stores don't buy bulk, and selling them overseas would eat all eventual profit. Suggestions for us europeans?

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By: the_cardfather https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/flash-of-hindsight-an-introduction-to-abundance-trading/#comment-3419 Fri, 13 Aug 2010 06:17:47 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1429#comment-3419 I've been using this strategy for a long time. This is right up there with buying collections. Do you know what kind of profits can be had when some guy comes up and hands you a huge binder full of midrange-crap cards and you offer him $100 cash for it.

"I don't really see anything I want to trade for, but would you take $100 for this?"
"Um dude you serious"
"ya man.. I'm just getting started and need some cards" open wallet pull out cash…
"uh.. ok"

Keep anything worth $0.50 or more and bulk the rest back to a dealer at the same convention.

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By: Kelly https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/flash-of-hindsight-an-introduction-to-abundance-trading/#comment-3418 Fri, 13 Aug 2010 03:34:10 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1429#comment-3418 -mtgveteran : That's the power of QS. Apparently we are listened-to in some manner.

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By: MtgVeteran https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/flash-of-hindsight-an-introduction-to-abundance-trading/#comment-3417 Fri, 13 Aug 2010 02:24:55 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1429#comment-3417 It's only been a few hours since you posted and goblin guides are already up .50.

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By: Léo Fugazza https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/flash-of-hindsight-an-introduction-to-abundance-trading/#comment-3416 Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:03:06 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1429#comment-3416 Abundance Trading may be an excellent way to make profit of rares, but it is also an even better way for a beginner to expand a collection. That lone Vengevine in a ROE booster? Useful in a 300$ standard deck, but as a one of for FNM, it isn't so good. 300 rares for the Vengevine? A dream coming true for new players.

Also, thanks for the hindsight. (Pun intended) I sure wasn't approaching trades this way, yet is is effective and quite easy to try.

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By: Corbin Hosler https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/flash-of-hindsight-an-introduction-to-abundance-trading/#comment-3415 Thu, 12 Aug 2010 22:59:41 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1429#comment-3415 Awesome idea. This is something that is sure to be worth your time and effort at a large event where you can cash out these bulk rares easily. Great article!

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By: Michael Poon https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/flash-of-hindsight-an-introduction-to-abundance-trading/#comment-3414 Thu, 12 Aug 2010 22:41:56 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1429#comment-3414 The only issue I see with bulk trading is that you have to hit a certain trader for it to work. If you go to the new guy, that person isn't going to like bulk trading because of a perceived "card disadvantage" where the guy is uncomfortable trading a lot of pieces of paper for one or two pieces of paper. And then if you trade with the vets, they know about bulk already and won't bulk out to you because they can get $0.10 on their rares too.

At least where I trade (Seattle and Boston), the traders who will bulk to you are too few.

There's nothing to be done with the people who know how to trade, so what I do is trade bulk but not at a dime, but usually for $0.25 or $0.50. This helps me capture those traders who dislike cardboard disadvantage. For example, you can easily price bulk mythics at $0.25 or $0.50, and flip them to Troll and Toad for $0.60.

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