Comments on: Whinston’s Whisdom – Reader Questions and Bonus Tips https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/reader-questions-and-bonus-tips/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Mon, 29 Nov 2010 03:56:39 +0000 hourly 1 By: Steve Villanova https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/reader-questions-and-bonus-tips/#comment-3573 Sat, 09 Oct 2010 17:49:16 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1616#comment-3573 Well hello there! I came to this article and found it to be pretty interesting but your HTML wouldn't completely load. It only seemed to load about 75% of the page. Are you aware of this?

Anywho, I don't completely agree with all that I've read so far from a dubstep genre perspective, but I'll swing through later to see if everything is fixed to finish reading.

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By: Hassan Cuffe https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/reader-questions-and-bonus-tips/#comment-3572 Wed, 15 Sep 2010 14:49:03 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1616#comment-3572 click on my name make $400 in one day,try earlier, chance bigger …:)

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By: Skel https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/reader-questions-and-bonus-tips/#comment-3571 Tue, 07 Sep 2010 11:47:13 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1616#comment-3571 The issue with the bot software that is mentioned being used is that you must have the bot running on a screen in order for it to work correctly. The bot software must be able to read gestures & text. Running more than one bot via virtual environments is possible, but you must be able to have each client on screen at all times. Theoretically one could run any number of bots at once on one machine as long as you have the screen real estate and resources. I can tell you from experience that some bot programs out there are fairly taxing on a system.

Oh, and if you are trying to sell bulk, normally humans are going to pay less than bots. Selling by specific card, however, you can normally net some gains by throwing up a classified add of your own or even replying to someone else'. There's no way I would sell "X" card for a ticket less to a bot, when I could potentially sell to a human for a decent amount with little to no work/wait. It's worth more to me to hold off selling if all I can find is a bot that buys for 1/4 of a sell price.

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By: ben https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/reader-questions-and-bonus-tips/#comment-3570 Mon, 06 Sep 2010 10:46:09 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1616#comment-3570 Well I am trying to get a bot working, but I am asking myself if it is worth the investment. I mean right now there are many established bots where you can find any cards you want, can you compete with that? will you need to invest 200+ to get 4x of all the playables in standard and even then how will you get your bot known? with so many out there I feel like I am trying to open a grocery right next to a supermarket. How much tix do you make per month?

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By: Jimbo https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/reader-questions-and-bonus-tips/#comment-3569 Sat, 04 Sep 2010 19:13:11 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1616#comment-3569 Meant to include this: Different computers consume electricity at different rates, just like the mentioned appliances, you can find out by calling the company that makes your computer, or checking the manual, or website, or something… might even have that info somewhere on your computer… but if you built your own rig, that might be tricky… no idea if you could like, add up all your hardware… lol, the bottom line is, it doesn't cost enough to matter. My household has gone from 3 to 8 computers running almost 24/7 over the past year, and our bill is barely higher on average if at all. The changes in electric cost from winter (140-180) to summer (220-250) are exponentially greater for me, due to increased use of A/C.

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By: Jimbo https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/reader-questions-and-bonus-tips/#comment-3568 Sat, 04 Sep 2010 19:06:32 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1616#comment-3568 "how much will weight the cost of electric energy? "

Electricity costs you different amounts per kilowatt/hour depending on where you live. There isn't a basic rate that is charged everywhere in the world. Also, every appliance, built to different standards, consumes electricity differently. If you have a water heater, A/C unit, or something else fairly large, you can probably find a yellow sticker on it somewhere telling you how much electricity it uses to function over the course of a year. Find an electric bill or call your utility company and you can find out just how much you are paying per kilowatt/hr of electricity. From there you should be able to consult a calculator 🙂

Don't even bother though unless for curiousity's sake. It doesn't cost enough to matter, trust me. You'd have to have the worst bots on MTGO, or your electricity would have to cost you so much that you would have never stayed on your computer long enough to ask these questions.

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By: the_cardfather https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/reader-questions-and-bonus-tips/#comment-3567 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 08:29:27 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1616#comment-3567 The monitors are the big cost when it comes to power. You want to turn those off. I suspect most multi bot owners are using a virtual connection to monitor several computers running the software without a monitor plugged in to any of them. Keep in mind that you do want this computer running all the time. If it goes to sleep and the hard drives shut down you loose your connection to the client. Most bots have a "no sleep" function but it doesn't always replicate user input well so newer operating systems will put the computer to sleep if you don't stop them.

Power costs in my area put running a midrange PC w/out monitor at $10 a month. (I was paying $40 a month several years ago to play WoW 30+ hrs a week on gaming pc with a 21 inch CRT).

If you buy the price list every 12 hours it costs you $12 a month (at 0.2/download). If you are paying $60 a month to the bot for rental you really need to be moving some cards to recover that. The problem with selling cheeper cards like your Temple Bell example is that you need enough of them for someone to get thier whole tickets worth. I went to a bot last night that had 12 rares for 1 which is 0.083 ea, but either they were so picked over that you couldn't find 12 you wanted. The reason certainly was that he couldn't buy sustainable rares for that price since there are many bots that will buy them 12-15 for 1.

Most likely with prices that low he's just unloading his draft trash and trying to get a little bit more for it than he could get selling to an established chain, but it doesn't seem like he's putting enough into it to make sales.

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By: urzassedatives https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/reader-questions-and-bonus-tips/#comment-3566 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:39:37 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1616#comment-3566 Maybe I am thinking about this in the wrong way, but once Path, O-ring, Pulse, and Terminate rotate, aren't black creatures suddenly hard to deal with? Doesn't that give Grave Titan (and presumably Persecutor) a chance to shine? Black could get any number of tools in Scars, as WoTC knows it isn't a heavily played color right now. I wouldn't count it out just yet. Memoricide could be a sign of black to come, after all.

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By: NoahWhinston https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/reader-questions-and-bonus-tips/#comment-3565 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 10:18:05 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1616#comment-3565 @CATS: usually, players will buy at 1 or 2 tickets higher than a bot, there are exceptions though.

@theDude: while this may be true on higher priced items (baneslayer, Jace TMS, etc.) on the lower priced items, there usually is a march large profit margin. for example, bots will usually buy temple bell for .08-.15 and sell for .5+ which is at least 330% of their buy price

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By: CATS https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/reader-questions-and-bonus-tips/#comment-3564 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 02:17:12 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1616#comment-3564 In reply to theDude.

Yeah, I am wondering too. Everytime I look for players to sell my cards I see that they pay worse than the bots, then i turn around and sell to a bot.

Of course, if you have your own bot…

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By: theDude https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/reader-questions-and-bonus-tips/#comment-3563 Sun, 29 Aug 2010 12:10:20 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1616#comment-3563 I have no idea where you are getting your "bots pay low" thing from. A GOOD bot has a 8-10% profit margin. compare that to paper where dealers pay half price to 65% of their sell price on average. Do you actually have any idea what you are talking about?

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By: Kazabet https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/reader-questions-and-bonus-tips/#comment-3562 Sun, 29 Aug 2010 10:44:58 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1616#comment-3562 In reply to juggernaut1002.

Keep in mind that's going to be your upper limit. A computer (almost) never uses 100% of it's power supply's potential output. When idle, big power hogs like graphics cards go idle, while harddrives get to spin down and CPU's speed-step (not sure if they still call it that?).

I would guess with MTGO minimized (to alleviate the GPU load), monitor turned off, and nothing else running, you're probably looking around 50-100 watts. If you're using a laptop, even less (they're designed for low power consumption), if you're using a Mac Mini, they advertise around 15 watts.

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By: juggernaut1002 https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/reader-questions-and-bonus-tips/#comment-3561 Sun, 29 Aug 2010 07:44:50 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1616#comment-3561 RE: Power supply costs.

Add the power supply wattage to your monitor wattage and multiply by your cost per kilowatt*hr from your electric company. This is your cost per hour.

For example, a 450W power supply + 50W monitor = 500W. If your electricity is $0.08/kWh, you're spending $0.96 a day to run your computer continuously.

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By: CATS https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/reader-questions-and-bonus-tips/#comment-3560 Sun, 29 Aug 2010 02:07:20 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1616#comment-3560 I bought Ascendants at 1 tix from bots and sold them back to bots for a bit more than 3 tix, wish I could have gotten more, but time constraints make dealing on MTGO hard, so i really should look into getting a bot.

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By: Adam Jury https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/08/reader-questions-and-bonus-tips/#comment-3559 Sun, 29 Aug 2010 02:03:51 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1616#comment-3559 Just a note on Parallels: it does not require you to partition your hard drive. Your Windows disk image is just one big giant (My Windows XP virtual machine is 13GB) file on your hard drive.

Boot Camp, however, does require you to partition your hard drive.

Parallels can turn a Boot Camp partition into a Parallels virtual disk, but you can't go (easily) in the opposite direction.

Max out your RAM if you're going to use Parallels — I have 4GB and sometimes it can act up, depending on what else I have going on at the same time.

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