Comments on: Insider: Skaab Ruinator and other Pre-order considerations https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/09/insider-skaab-ruinator-and-other-pre-order-considerations/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 18 Jan 2022 02:58:54 +0000 hourly 1 By: Paul Johnson https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/09/insider-skaab-ruinator-and-other-pre-order-considerations/#comment-25102 Fri, 09 Sep 2011 06:55:06 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=20628#comment-25102 What about if you’re self-milling with Mirror-mad phantasm? easy way to get a whole heap of cards in the yard. Too slow?

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By: Carl Szalich https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/09/insider-skaab-ruinator-and-other-pre-order-considerations/#comment-25083 Thu, 08 Sep 2011 20:18:25 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=20628#comment-25083 In reply to Doug.

I'm on board with Doug on this one. Seems like you'd have to fill your deck with terrible cards to ever get him into play. It's cute when you have 3-4 squad hawks in your bin, but even once you cast him, hes just a flying beater that isn't even guaranteed to get in for a swing. Oh yea, squad hawk won't even be around at the same time as this guy… I think that makes him nigh unplayable even. Conditional cards like this one feel like a "trap".

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By: Doug https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/09/insider-skaab-ruinator-and-other-pre-order-considerations/#comment-25082 Thu, 08 Sep 2011 18:38:33 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=20628#comment-25082 Is it wrong that I think that Ruinator is 110% hype? The card is no Vengevine. Veggies came out on turn 4, all the time, with no extra assistance. It started swinging immediately. When it died, sometimes you got it back if you had BBE or the like.

This guy? God forbid you draw two during the course of a game, they'll never come out. Three guys in the yard means you need a lot of Illusions dying or you need to be grinding some seriously bad Looter cards in a deck full of bad looter cards. Then the opponent points their GFTT at it or attacks into it; do you block, remembering that Dismember before combat damage is a serious possibility? Do you let a 1/1 through for fear of having to set the whole thing up again? If this dies, you have to do the whole setup over again; if it gets O-ringed or something similar, you don't even have that option.

The setup to get this thing out ONCE is too much for a mere 5/6 flier.

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By: @am71722 https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/09/insider-skaab-ruinator-and-other-pre-order-considerations/#comment-25073 Thu, 08 Sep 2011 15:36:47 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=20628#comment-25073 What about Mindshrieker? Seems to be an effective blue beater that can add to the dredge theme of a deck.

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