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Conspiracy Spoiler – Marchesa the Black Rose

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Great googily moogily. This card is solid. Sol. Lid.

Dethrone is a very, very cool ability. It is quite powerful, but it also requires you to play suboptimally if you want the payoff. If you can make Marchesa indestructible with something like Darksteel Plate, you can wrath with abandon (well, you can Damnation with abandon, anyway) and get the dudes that survived combat back, untapped. Sweet deal.

This wants to go in a deck with a lot of creatures but also a lot of control elements and I think Grixis is a good combination for that. This puts counters on Thraximundar, Deathbringer Thoctar and even Sage of Hours. This does work. Having to attack the player doing the best and not finish off someone weaker is an interesting twist, and if you do that well the person who needs dethroned may change. If you do it too well, the person who needs a dethronin' may be you, and you can't get triggers anymore. I love the nuances that this card brings out in multiplayer games. This will be fun in draft, it's a cool general for EDH and I am liking Conspiracy so far.

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3 thoughts on “Conspiracy Spoiler – Marchesa the Black Rose

  1. Unless I’m reading this badly… you can attack with your team against the player with the highest life, they all get +1/+1 counters from dethrone… attack with everything, even if it’s going to die, then damnation in Main 2 and get back everything you attacked with, including her.

    She’s amazing. But you need to remember it only works if they’re ahead. If you’re ahead, she is just a harder to cast 3/3 for 4cmc. Grixis isn’t widely known for putting counters on it’s creatures either (not that they don’t get them).

    Also, undying is kind of silly with her.

  2. I really wish she had one more toughness, but this is coming from someone who not-so-secretly wishes that anything and everything interesting-looking was Legacy-playable. I have dreams (or, more accurately, delusions) of playing her in some bizarre Sneak Attack deck or something with Geralf’s Messangers and sac outlets.

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