Comments on: Insider: Making the Most of Vintage Masters Release Week https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/06/insider-making-the-most-of-vintage-masters-release-week/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 18 Jan 2022 02:35:16 +0000 hourly 1 By: Slack https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/06/insider-making-the-most-of-vintage-masters-release-week/#comment-114334 Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:09:16 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=47902#comment-114334 In reply to Alexander Carl.

I’m leaning towards 8-Mans vs PE simply because of the time sink involved with Premium Events. I think the play is to go for quantity of packs opened, not prize payout, especially during the first few days of these. More baskets, less eggs broken. In fact, I am wondering whether or not to insta-drop the event if you pull power just to sell the rest of your cards and re-queue.

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By: Alexander Carl https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/06/insider-making-the-most-of-vintage-masters-release-week/#comment-114025 Tue, 10 Jun 2014 14:13:57 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=47902#comment-114025 In reply to Joey D..

Welcome aboard Joey! Some good analysis here in the forums:

http://www.quietspeculation.com/forum/index.php/topic,1706.75.html

To summarize:

–DE payouts are lower than expected, especially for 3-1 finish.
–8-mans are good value.
–PE payouts are great value if they fire with a modest number of players
–Sealed Daily Events have a highly discounted entry if you pay with tix (“tickets only” is 35 tix vs 6 packs + 2 tix (44 tix at retail))
–I think it’s still too early to tell what this will do to pack prices overall. There may be opportunities to buy VMA packs starting today when prize payouts switch but before VMA drafting starts.

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By: Joey D. https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/06/insider-making-the-most-of-vintage-masters-release-week/#comment-113998 Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:14:05 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=47902#comment-113998 In reply to Alexander Carl.

Any chance we will see some follow up commentary based on DE and PE payouts for vintage masters being announced? Im trying to figure out which events to enter, of course looking for the highest EV events.

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By: Alexander Carl https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/06/insider-making-the-most-of-vintage-masters-release-week/#comment-113759 Mon, 09 Jun 2014 13:55:00 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=47902#comment-113759 In reply to Hawaii.

I don’t have a spreadsheet, but Tim Freyder compiled a good list of where we stand price-wise before VMA launches:

http://www.quietspeculation.com/forum/index.php/topic,1706.45.html

And there is a list at this PureMTGO article, though prices are about a week old now:

http://puremtgo.com/articles/classic-showdown-24-vintage-masters

These values will change quickly once we kick things off, but are a good starting point.

My next article will take a look, in passing, at the implications of rarity changes. (Worth noting that most of the rarity changes took place at the Unc and Com rarities, so price implications are modest for those.)

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By: Alexander Carl https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/06/insider-making-the-most-of-vintage-masters-release-week/#comment-113757 Mon, 09 Jun 2014 13:44:31 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=47902#comment-113757 In reply to Joseph Desroschers.

Thanks Joseph, glad this article added value. Be sure to check the QS Forums–lots of good analysis there as well.

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By: SSHdude https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/06/insider-making-the-most-of-vintage-masters-release-week/#comment-113542 Sun, 08 Jun 2014 16:00:55 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=47902#comment-113542 Enjoyed the article! I always learn something from them 🙂

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By: Hawaii https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/06/insider-making-the-most-of-vintage-masters-release-week/#comment-113524 Sun, 08 Jun 2014 15:08:40 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=47902#comment-113524 In reply to Alexander Carl.

I read that in the article but was just wondering if someone went through the trouble to make something like that.

Any thoughts on how some of the rarity changes may affect the prices of any of the cards in the set?

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By: Joseph Desroschers https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/06/insider-making-the-most-of-vintage-masters-release-week/#comment-113521 Sun, 08 Jun 2014 14:36:20 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=47902#comment-113521 i became an insider just to read this and any other content pertaining to vintage masters in preparation for the release of vintage masters. solid article, it was definitely value added for me to read it.

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By: Alexander Carl https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/06/insider-making-the-most-of-vintage-masters-release-week/#comment-113480 Sun, 08 Jun 2014 11:23:09 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=47902#comment-113480 In reply to Hawaii.

When I’m drafting I keep open the Goatbots price list–they show buy and sell prices, including for money uncommons. You can see prices at a glance and use Ctrl-F to find cards that you need a price on. It’s all updated in real time, which is better than a static spreadsheet.

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By: Hawaii https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/06/insider-making-the-most-of-vintage-masters-release-week/#comment-113470 Sun, 08 Jun 2014 10:18:08 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=47902#comment-113470 Is there a spreadsheet or something made for the valuable cards in the Vintage Masters set?

It would be a shame to ship a $2 uncommon just because you didnt know it was worth anything.

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By: Alexander Carl https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/06/insider-making-the-most-of-vintage-masters-release-week/#comment-113401 Sun, 08 Jun 2014 02:50:14 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=47902#comment-113401 In reply to Paul Nemeth.

Thanks Paul. Past in Flames risk is there, but ban is unlikely to happen unless deck starts stringing together dominant performances (which would give us some heads up.) Also, Eidolon of Great Revels provides another tool against the storm deck.

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By: Paul Nemeth https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/06/insider-making-the-most-of-vintage-masters-release-week/#comment-113350 Sat, 07 Jun 2014 21:07:21 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=47902#comment-113350 This was a great read. I do worry that they could throw more bannings at Modern Storm at pretty much any B&R announcement, which would nuke the value of Past in Flames.

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By: Cooper https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/06/insider-making-the-most-of-vintage-masters-release-week/#comment-113257 Sat, 07 Jun 2014 09:47:36 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=47902#comment-113257 Enjoyed this one, a lot of good information to think about.

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