Comments on: The Man Who Ate Pumpkins https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/10/the-man-who-ate-pumpkins/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Wed, 22 Oct 2014 18:12:25 +0000 hourly 1 By: J.T. https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/10/the-man-who-ate-pumpkins/#comment-216379 Wed, 22 Oct 2014 18:12:25 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=52956#comment-216379 In reply to Jason Alt.

Also seeing that everyone’s favorite Alex Bertoncini may have been involved in some shenanigans in Worcester as well:
http://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/2jx8gu/alex_bertoncini_may_have_also_cheated_at_scg/

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By: John Jackson https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/10/the-man-who-ate-pumpkins/#comment-216179 Wed, 22 Oct 2014 15:30:49 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=52956#comment-216179 Bertoncini also cheating at Worcester.

http://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/2jx8gu/alex_bertoncini_may_have_also_cheated_at_scg/

Actions taken against cheats in this game are a joke.

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By: Jason Alt https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/10/the-man-who-ate-pumpkins/#comment-215051 Tue, 21 Oct 2014 22:40:16 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=52956#comment-215051 In reply to Krond.

Daniel Tosh only gets away with it because he can prove that he gets all of his jokes from reddit, and usually they’re originally written by someone from that marginalized group.

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By: Tyler Tyssedal https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/10/the-man-who-ate-pumpkins/#comment-215039 Tue, 21 Oct 2014 22:24:22 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=52956#comment-215039 In reply to Jason Alt.

I think I speak for all white people when I say that drinking espresso after three makes it hard to go to sleep at 9:30pm.

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By: Krond https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/10/the-man-who-ate-pumpkins/#comment-214979 Tue, 21 Oct 2014 21:16:42 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=52956#comment-214979 In reply to Ryan Overturf.

I thought the rule was that you can pick on a marginalized group, but only if you belong to that group. The only exception is if your name is Daniel Tosh.

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By: Jason Alt https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/10/the-man-who-ate-pumpkins/#comment-214925 Tue, 21 Oct 2014 20:33:52 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=52956#comment-214925 In reply to beaneau.

Lose everything? Excommunication? I don’t know, man. I see Buttcrack guy at every GP. I see Bertoncini continue to play in and win events. There really is no such thing as social exile from this community. People will always have supporters and people will make jokes at this guy’s expense, but there’s nothing tangible we can do. He’s not getting into the hall of fame, but he’s not exactly going to be “excommunicated” either. The financial consequences are real, everything else is illusory.

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By: Jason Alt https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/10/the-man-who-ate-pumpkins/#comment-214923 Tue, 21 Oct 2014 20:31:29 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=52956#comment-214923 In reply to Jason.

It’s actually impossible to offend white people as a group. Besides, they’d have to set down their pumpkin spice latte to write a post about it and they’d see I had a point.

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By: Ryan Overturf https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/10/the-man-who-ate-pumpkins/#comment-214720 Tue, 21 Oct 2014 16:33:44 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=52956#comment-214720 In reply to Jason.

The rule in comedy is that you don’t pick on the marginalized group. White peoples offended by comments on whiteness don’t need to be catered to.

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By: Ryan Overturf https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/10/the-man-who-ate-pumpkins/#comment-214717 Tue, 21 Oct 2014 16:29:05 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=52956#comment-214717 In reply to Krond.

Their table judges that they already have present really need to do more of this and less getting the “correct” token.

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By: Ryan Overturf https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/10/the-man-who-ate-pumpkins/#comment-214714 Tue, 21 Oct 2014 16:26:28 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=52956#comment-214714 In reply to Dig Dugglestein.

I fully blame scum for being scum, but naivety empowers these people to get as far as they do. I mean, people defended Bertoncini for a long time. Probably still do.

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By: Dig Dugglestein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/10/the-man-who-ate-pumpkins/#comment-214706 Tue, 21 Oct 2014 16:18:47 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=52956#comment-214706 In reply to Ryan Overturf.

Don’t blame the victim.

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By: beaneau https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/10/the-man-who-ate-pumpkins/#comment-214633 Tue, 21 Oct 2014 14:43:54 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=52956#comment-214633 I guess winning is still worth risking one’s integrity. Cheating is totally allowed as long as you don’t get caught (that’s an ironic joke, btw). Cheating on camera!? That is incredibly ballsy. He’s going to lose everything and get banned in the process. This kind of arrogance deserves the most severe punishment.

Props for the balls, I guess. Now please enjoy your excommunication from the Magic community.

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By: Krond https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/10/the-man-who-ate-pumpkins/#comment-214618 Tue, 21 Oct 2014 14:23:20 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=52956#comment-214618 Of course the players are the best ones to be on the look out for their opponent’s shenanigans. BUT, maybe Star City could give a reminder to their commentators/crew to keep an eye out for this sort of stuff.

Perhaps they could get a spare Judge who’s in the know about stuff like this to be on camera duty. Rules are broken frequently, and occasionally you get the big ol’ pumpkin eater. Not sure if there commonly enough Judges to support this, but it’s an idea.

Star City is doing a great job with their tournament series, and the burden isn’t entirely on them, but I figured it’s worth mentioning.

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By: Matt Sears https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/10/the-man-who-ate-pumpkins/#comment-214590 Tue, 21 Oct 2014 14:04:05 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=52956#comment-214590 In reply to Jason.

As a white person, I don’t find this offensive at all. I don’t like pumpkin spice things but find the comedy behind it hilarious. Haven’t you heard that if you say “pumpkin spice latte” in a mirror three times a white girl in yoga pants, ugs, and a northface will jump out of the mirror and kill you?

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By: Jason https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/10/the-man-who-ate-pumpkins/#comment-214467 Tue, 21 Oct 2014 11:41:30 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=52956#comment-214467 “When white people can’t get their pumpkins…”

Even if used tongue-in-cheek, why risk offending a portion of the reader base? You distract from an interesting topic and risk driving away future paying subscribers.

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By: desymond https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/10/the-man-who-ate-pumpkins/#comment-213897 Tue, 21 Oct 2014 01:42:11 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=52956#comment-213897 In reply to Brad.

I would have casually been like “we are allowed to swap cards out?” with the tone that you didn’t know that and also wanted to. Say it loud enough to catch other peoples attention, and it will look innocent enough on your side that you won’t be seen as an outcast. But in reality you should be able to go to a judge.

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By: Mike https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/10/the-man-who-ate-pumpkins/#comment-213688 Mon, 20 Oct 2014 23:26:28 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=52956#comment-213688 In reply to Brad.

If there’s a judge, then tell them what you saw. You don’t need to call out an explicit player, but maybe ask them to just give a reminder at the beginning of the next event or in between rounds. This will hopefully be enough to curtail the shenanigans without it becoming a full-on confrontation. A lot of times players just need to hear that others are aware of their shadiness for them to cut it out.

Same goes for the store owner.

It’s possible (though highly improbable) that he think this is OK from certain limited events where open deck building is completely fine.

If, however, he continues to display this behavior, just mention to the judge what you saw and ask them to keep an eye on this player in between rounds. Ideally, the judge or store owner is who catches the player and deals with it directly, without having to involve you.

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By: Brad https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/10/the-man-who-ate-pumpkins/#comment-213539 Mon, 20 Oct 2014 21:41:11 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=52956#comment-213539 In reply to Ryan Overturf.

I have a question about a different instance of cheating. I was recently at my local FNM and noticed a player inbetween a round change out a card or two from his binder to his maindeck. As decks are not registered in any fashion, how should I go about bringing this up to the judge or store owner. He is friends with many of the other players there and I am afraid it is I who would be ostracized if I mentioned it.

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By: Brad https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/10/the-man-who-ate-pumpkins/#comment-213535 Mon, 20 Oct 2014 21:39:53 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=52956#comment-213535 I have a question about a different instance of cheating. I was recently at my local FNM and noticed a player inbetween a round change out a card or two from his binder to his maindeck. As decks are not registered in any fashion, how should I go about bringing this up to the judge or store owner. He is friends with many of the other players there and I am afraid it is I who would be ostracized if I mentioned it.

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By: Ryan Overturf https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/10/the-man-who-ate-pumpkins/#comment-213482 Mon, 20 Oct 2014 21:04:02 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=52956#comment-213482 It is astonishing that an opponent never called him on this. Watch your opponents people!

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