Comments on: Fate Reforged Spoiler – 1/1/15 https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoiler-1115/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 06 Jan 2015 22:33:04 +0000 hourly 1 By: Raleigh Chen https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoiler-1115/#comment-338714 Tue, 06 Jan 2015 22:33:04 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55275#comment-338714 Would Torrent Elemental be a good card for U/B Control? Even if your opponent kills it, you’re a treasure cruise/dig/murderous cut away from using it again. Then again, Pearl Lake Ancient and Prognostic Sphinx have the added benefit of reusing scryland/scrying… but Torrent Elemental seems more kill/accidental mill proof.

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By: Jason Alt https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoiler-1115/#comment-333341 Sat, 03 Jan 2015 06:31:42 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55275#comment-333341 In reply to spider-plant.

I don’t think he needs to be completely terrible to be a bulk rare, unfortunately.

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By: Jason Alt https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoiler-1115/#comment-333339 Sat, 03 Jan 2015 06:30:11 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55275#comment-333339 In reply to aethertech.

I have talked to a few people who are actually excited about it. I don’t know – would this be exciting even if you could use the mana for anything, not just dragons?

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By: Ryan Overturf https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoiler-1115/#comment-333032 Sat, 03 Jan 2015 01:25:38 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55275#comment-333032 In reply to Kelly Reid.

I think it has a power range that fits Rabblemasters range inside of it, but I don’t see how this makes it Modern playable.

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By: Kelly Reid https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoiler-1115/#comment-332848 Fri, 02 Jan 2015 22:31:00 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55275#comment-332848 In reply to Ryan Overturf.

I think this card is better than Goblin Rabblemaster.

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By: spider-plant https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoiler-1115/#comment-332574 Fri, 02 Jan 2015 17:18:58 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55275#comment-332574 I mostly agree with your reasoning on Daghatar the Adamant, but he’s still a fair vigilant creature, and he does have the ability to steal your opponent’s +1/+1 counters as well. He may be the worst of that cycle, but he’s not completely terrible.

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By: Ryan Overturf https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoiler-1115/#comment-332528 Fri, 02 Jan 2015 16:21:26 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55275#comment-332528 In reply to Kelly Reid.

Feel free to elaborate, but your comment on its face seems to wildly understate the difference between two and three mana in Modern.

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By: aethertech https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoiler-1115/#comment-332515 Fri, 02 Jan 2015 16:07:53 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55275#comment-332515 No, Crucible of the Spirit Dragon is terrible, even in a dragons deck I wouldn’t run it. And I love my nonbasics – but its….terrible.

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By: Kelly Reid https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoiler-1115/#comment-332504 Fri, 02 Jan 2015 15:47:32 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55275#comment-332504 In reply to Ryan Overturf.

instant Modern staple IMO.

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By: Jason Alt https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoiler-1115/#comment-332021 Fri, 02 Jan 2015 06:19:30 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55275#comment-332021 In reply to Hayden.

Wow, no, so it’s not even as good as Griffin. Total trash.

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By: Hayden https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoiler-1115/#comment-331993 Fri, 02 Jan 2015 05:46:15 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55275#comment-331993 Can you use food chain mana to use the torrent elemental ability?

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By: Jason Alt https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoiler-1115/#comment-331949 Fri, 02 Jan 2015 04:57:11 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55275#comment-331949 In reply to Ryan Overturf.

Well put. This set has so much going for it, it would have to be played in 110% of the format to do what Voice of Resurgence did, price-wise. I hope this doesn’t go up from $25

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By: Ryan Overturf https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoiler-1115/#comment-331919 Fri, 02 Jan 2015 04:27:19 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55275#comment-331919 Monastery mentor is very good, but it’s difficult to imagine it holding such a substantial price point. It will be in two, maybe three decks and it doesn’t beat the cards that already exist that are very good against those decks. I don’t see myself not playing the card once it launches, but it’s only good in Standard and even there it’s just additional copies of Rabblemaster, and only in spell-heavy decks. I don’t think anybody is wrong about the playability, but it’s more niche than I think you can justify spending $25 on.

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