Comments on: Bant Slivers Testing: Video https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/bant-slivers-testing-video-2/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 05 May 2015 05:58:38 +0000 hourly 1 By: Steve Metzger https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/bant-slivers-testing-video-2/#comment-2120725 Tue, 05 May 2015 05:58:38 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=1631#comment-2120725 In reply to Steve Metzger.

And against the Bloom Titan deck you kept up snag AND path and didnt cast either of them on the plant token? and then SIDED THEM OUT? I am so confused,,,,

]]> By: Steve Metzger https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/bant-slivers-testing-video-2/#comment-2120724 Tue, 05 May 2015 05:42:41 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=1631#comment-2120724 Out of curiosity, why did you leave in path AND vapor snag? For electromancer? surely a creature is better than a dead removal spell? Im referring of course to the second match vs Storm. Also I wouldve f6ed and made him combo game one, you definately can cast twenty spells and not find your grapeshot and if nothing else can kill his clock…. I guess you are just testing so that’s really not necessary as nothing is on the line

]]> By: Roland F. Rivera Santiago https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/bant-slivers-testing-video-2/#comment-2120723 Mon, 04 May 2015 16:23:24 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=1631#comment-2120723 That was a rough batch of games for sure, though I wouldn’t draw any conclusions from that last match. I think you might do a bit better with some more versatile mana fixing, though. I went all-in on Sliver Hive and Cavern of Souls when testing my own version of your deck (4 of each instead of fetches), and I don’t remember running into the color-screw issues you occasionally encountered. Bonescythe Sliver also seems to be the natural thing to try as a finisher, since the deck seems to be lacking that T4-5 knockout punch that puts more established aggro decks over the top. We can also tweak the sideboard a bit – maybe we can take a page out of Stompy’s book and run pump spells to make up for the relative lack of Lords?

]]> By: Darcy Hartwick https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/bant-slivers-testing-video-2/#comment-2120722 Thu, 30 Apr 2015 19:58:37 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=1631#comment-2120722 If you just build the deck to be +1+1 lords of a tribe its inevitably going to be inconsistent+bad merfolk. Adaptive automaton in particular makes me shudder – this card should not be played in modern ever :/

If you’re going slivers you need something different/better than what merfolk does. I think there are enough slivers that something else is possible. Tom Ross posted some combo slivers options last year

Creatures (36)

4 Dormant Sliver
4 Firewake Sliver
4 Frenetic Sliver
4 Galerider Sliver
4 Gemhide Sliver
4 Manaweft Sliver
4 Predatory Sliver
4 Striking Sliver
4 Virulent Sliver
Lands (20)

1 Forest
1 Island
1 Mountain
2 Breeding Pool
4 Cavern of Souls
4 Misty Rainforest
4 Scalding Tarn
1 Steam Vents
1 Stomping Ground
1 Pendelhaven
Spells (4)

4 Summoner’s Pact

Other deck:

Creatures (34)

4 Dormant Sliver
4 Firewake Sliver
4 Frenetic Sliver
4 Galerider Sliver
4 Gemhide Sliver
1 Harmonic Sliver
4 Manaweft Sliver
1 Predatory Sliver
4 Striking Sliver
4 Virulent Sliver
Lands (20)

1 Forest
1 Island
1 Breeding Pool
4 Cavern of Souls
1 Hallowed Fountain
4 Misty Rainforest
1 Mutavault
1 Scalding Tarn
4 Sliver Hive
1 Steam Vents
1 Stomping Ground
Spells (6)

4 Summoner’s Pact
2 To Arms!
Sideboard

4 Diffusion Sliver
3 Harmonic Sliver
3 Predatory Sliver
4 Blood Moon
1 Sliver Hivelord

]]> By: Sean Ridgeley https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/bant-slivers-testing-video-2/#comment-2120721 Thu, 30 Apr 2015 17:56:49 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=1631#comment-2120721 In reply to Daniel.

I agree about Crystalline. Basically we make a poor aggro deck, and lack the tools to be a good tempo deck.

The Merfolk comparison is better but yeah, it’s not better than any aggro or tempo deck.

Caverns should probably be in there, yeah. Company isn’t good here because of weak flips.

I’d sink in two articles worth of time into determining whether or not a deck is viable, as I’ve done.

]]> By: Daniel https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/bant-slivers-testing-video-2/#comment-2120720 Thu, 30 Apr 2015 17:20:05 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=1631#comment-2120720 I think that not having access to crystaline sliver is too be a of loss for modern slivers to ever take off. Diffusion sliver doesnt even come close to the power level of crystaline. I think the biggest issue the deck has is that it doesn’t do anything that zoo can’t do better, and zoo is in a bad spot in the meta right now. Zoo has access to 3/3’s on turn 1, where slivers will be at best attacking for 2 on turn 2. Both are extremely weak to wrath effects ( though I think slivers is softer to it, seeing as it needs a critical mass of creatures, where as zoo can just drop a beater and ride that out until the wrath player deals with it), but slivers lacks the reach that zoo has in the form of bolts/helix. It’s definitely a cute pet deck, but I dont know how much time I would sink into tuning it into a “competitive” list. Thats said; I think you’re pretty damn close to getting it to as competitive as it could be, although I am really confused by the lack of Cavern of Souls and Collected Company

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