Comments on: Uncertainty in Modern Masters 2015 Allocations – Significantly Smaller than MM1? https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/modern-masters-2015-allocations-significantly-smaller-than-mm1/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Thu, 28 May 2015 13:56:20 +0000 hourly 1 By: Chris https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/modern-masters-2015-allocations-significantly-smaller-than-mm1/#comment-804556 Thu, 28 May 2015 13:56:20 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59450#comment-804556 In reply to Casey.

Perhaps the larger print volume could take into account the foreign prints. Previously MM1 was printed only English.

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By: Andrew https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/modern-masters-2015-allocations-significantly-smaller-than-mm1/#comment-704368 Fri, 08 May 2015 20:51:08 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59450#comment-704368 Wizards’ Twitter confirmed the larger print run way back in December

https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/54158822

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By: Kelly Reid https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/modern-masters-2015-allocations-significantly-smaller-than-mm1/#comment-662113 Thu, 30 Apr 2015 13:52:49 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59450#comment-662113 I feel the need to explain something to the readers here that I think a lot of us intuitively understood, but some might have missed.

It has been a few years since MM was released. In that time, more retail stores have opened & more have advanced to higher WPN allocation levels. Furthermore, there are three Grand Prix being run, not one. The demand for the product is going to be way higher this time around.

Therefore, it’s entirely possible that there are more MM2 cards being PRINTED, but on a per-store basis, each store will get less. The assumption that a higher print run directly correlates 1::1 to store allocation is flawed, ESPECIALLY in this case, when you have a small, limited run, premium-priced product consisting entirely of reprints.

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By: Kelly Reid https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/modern-masters-2015-allocations-significantly-smaller-than-mm1/#comment-662078 Thu, 30 Apr 2015 13:47:25 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59450#comment-662078 In reply to Colin.

Trolls gonna troll.

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By: mike lanigan https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/modern-masters-2015-allocations-significantly-smaller-than-mm1/#comment-661575 Thu, 30 Apr 2015 11:51:31 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59450#comment-661575 Great article! You did exactly what you set out to do, get people talking about the print run of MMA2. Without you starting this conversation, we wouldn’t be talking about it. Don’t focus on some of the negative comments, just remember you did a great job starting the ball rolling.

To add to the topic, I didn’t own a store for MMA1 so I don’t have number to compare, but we were allotted more than what we were originally told. That leads me to believe the print run is larger, but I’m not actually sure. I wish they would put info like this on wizards web site, but so often they don’t.

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By: Colin https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/modern-masters-2015-allocations-significantly-smaller-than-mm1/#comment-658160 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:36:54 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59450#comment-658160 Wow, angry responses on this one. If this were a premium article, I could see why people might gripe, but this a freebie. Someone is passing along an anecdote for whatever value it may have. What’s the big deal?

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By: Kelly Reid https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/modern-masters-2015-allocations-significantly-smaller-than-mm1/#comment-657489 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 18:55:13 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59450#comment-657489 In reply to brotha52.

Print Run != Allocation on a store level.

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By: Kelly Reid https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/modern-masters-2015-allocations-significantly-smaller-than-mm1/#comment-657480 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 18:53:31 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59450#comment-657480 In reply to Cc.

He’s relaying first-hand information from a trustworthy source. I’m not sure why this is bothering you.

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By: brotha52 https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/modern-masters-2015-allocations-significantly-smaller-than-mm1/#comment-657238 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 18:02:54 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59450#comment-657238 I’ve spent a lot of time researching this topic. In the forums we’ve been sharing info we heard at GAMA, as well as from our LGS owners. I feel very confidant in saying that the print run is at least 2x that of MMA. Realistically considering the things I can’t get a good read on (foriegn printings, increase in number of WPN stores, WPN level ups, etc.), I would project closer to a 3x multiplier.

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By: Cc https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/modern-masters-2015-allocations-significantly-smaller-than-mm1/#comment-656576 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 15:58:52 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59450#comment-656576 In reply to Mike Bajorek.

So you were just telling a story in hopes that something would come of it? Weird…

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By: phyrexiantrader https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/modern-masters-2015-allocations-significantly-smaller-than-mm1/#comment-655824 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 13:33:58 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59450#comment-655824 It conflicts with many other sources…

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By: Mistrblank https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/modern-masters-2015-allocations-significantly-smaller-than-mm1/#comment-655755 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 13:18:12 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59450#comment-655755 In reply to abc.

Well now they’re going to msrp packs at $10 and watch us pay $12 a pack to crack packs day one.

Short of printing to real demand, anything “limited” will be taxed like this. It would be nice if WotC wasn’t the first to tax us in the totem pole of distribution.

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By: Mike Bajorek https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/modern-masters-2015-allocations-significantly-smaller-than-mm1/#comment-655608 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 12:48:18 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59450#comment-655608 In reply to phyrexiantrader.

I did…

” I had an interesting discussion with one of my local shop owners here in Michigan. I have his permission, and wanted to share that text conversation verbatim.”

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By: Mike Bajorek https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/modern-masters-2015-allocations-significantly-smaller-than-mm1/#comment-655601 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 12:46:19 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59450#comment-655601 In reply to Jonathan.

I appreciate the attempts Jonathan. I have since seen the tweet, and yes, we do need an “edit” button

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By: phyrexiantrader https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/modern-masters-2015-allocations-significantly-smaller-than-mm1/#comment-654683 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 09:53:33 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59450#comment-654683 journalistic value = 0.

I think this could be an interesting article. But instead you used the story of a friend and published is as hot, fresh, world shattering news full of facts.

You have zero facts.

I get it, he is not lying, but maybe a wrong interpretation or wrong communication somewhere. If you want to publish this as big news, check your facts, otherwise, call it a story you want to share.

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By: Dave https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/modern-masters-2015-allocations-significantly-smaller-than-mm1/#comment-652616 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 02:03:53 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59450#comment-652616 Here’s what the tweet from the wotc account says: “(Nate) For those asking about #MTGMM2015 print runs, it IS a limited run, but higher than #MTGMMA was.” It’s from December 7, 2014.

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By: abc https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/modern-masters-2015-allocations-significantly-smaller-than-mm1/#comment-652571 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 01:56:09 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59450#comment-652571 So for MM1 WotC printed a small amount, charged $7 a pack, and watches as people paid $10-20 per pack, thus costing the company a big chunk of change. So now you would have us bite on the idea that WotC is upping the price to $10 a pack for MM2 but is gonna print LESS just so the company can once again watch pack prices soar way above MSRP? Sorry, but that doesn’t make a lick of sense.

It is pretty ridiculous that WotC isn’t more straightforward with print run numbers. Tweeting “Uh, more than last time” and then saying nothing else for the next 6 months isn’t very useful.

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By: Jonathan https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/modern-masters-2015-allocations-significantly-smaller-than-mm1/#comment-652473 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 01:36:53 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59450#comment-652473 In reply to Jonathan.

It’s still not working, guess it’s getting cut short since it’s assumed as spam? Well, to anyone interested, just googling ‘modern masters 2 larger print run’ should find the twitter post on wotc’s official account relatively quick.

PS: Sorry about the spam, is there an edit function? Cause I can’t find it.

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By: Jonathan https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/modern-masters-2015-allocations-significantly-smaller-than-mm1/#comment-652441 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 01:30:05 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59450#comment-652441 In reply to Jonathan.

Odd, seems like it cuts off my link. Trying it again https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/54158822

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By: Jonathan https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/04/modern-masters-2015-allocations-significantly-smaller-than-mm1/#comment-652426 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 01:27:30 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59450#comment-652426 This is interesting but I do want to point it that it really was mentioned on Twitter and a quick Google search did find it relatively easily. Here’s the link: https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/54158822

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