Comments on: Insider: Modern Masters 2015 Box Report https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-masters-2015-box-report/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 18 Jan 2022 02:25:16 +0000 hourly 1 By: oscar https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-masters-2015-box-report/#comment-820389 Sun, 31 May 2015 20:16:54 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=60193#comment-820389 In reply to Mike Lanigan.

Dont worry i can afford it.

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By: Mike Lanigan https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-masters-2015-box-report/#comment-815368 Sat, 30 May 2015 13:51:15 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=60193#comment-815368 In reply to Brian.

I’d be very surprised if prices drop that low. If so, lots of cards will be great buys though. We’ll see what happens.

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By: Brian https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-masters-2015-box-report/#comment-812146 Fri, 29 May 2015 23:10:14 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=60193#comment-812146 In reply to Mike Lanigan.

Yeah, I guess using words like “drastic” is too bold. I don’t really know what the market will do, only what I’ve read. Maybe the price drop that’s already occurred is correct with just a bit of wiggle room. I’m probably letting my emotional attachment to owning ‘goyfs and Bobs get in the way of reason when I buy into hype like this:

goyf: $100
bob: ~$30
hierarch: ~$20
Clique: ~$30

I can always hope though. I’ll be pretty sad if the prices rebound too soon after the GP’s.

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By: Mike Lanigan https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-masters-2015-box-report/#comment-811969 Fri, 29 May 2015 22:20:51 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=60193#comment-811969 In reply to oscar.

My sympathies go out to you.

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By: Mike Lanigan https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-masters-2015-box-report/#comment-811968 Fri, 29 May 2015 22:20:25 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=60193#comment-811968 In reply to Brian.

If be surprised if the prices drop much more than they already did. You’re right though, they will probably still go down a little more since all the dealers get a limited reorder.

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By: Brian https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-masters-2015-box-report/#comment-811885 Fri, 29 May 2015 21:49:58 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=60193#comment-811885 Try to keep in mind that these average values will change drastically after this weekend. At least that is the prediction I’ve seen the most…

TLDR; all of these cards are worth much less a week from now, even tarmogoyf. The price you already paid on these boxes won’t though.

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By: oscar https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-masters-2015-box-report/#comment-811703 Fri, 29 May 2015 20:54:40 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=60193#comment-811703 In reply to Mike Lanigan.

Nope all bulk 1-2$ rares that i didnt mention. 🙂 no foils except the “bulk rare” foil

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By: Mike Lanigan https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-masters-2015-box-report/#comment-807071 Fri, 29 May 2015 02:12:18 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=60193#comment-807071 In reply to oscar ogren.

Wow. Unless you missed something, that’s definitely the worst box I’ve seen by a large margin. That sucks man. No other reasonable foils?

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By: oscar ogren https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-masters-2015-box-report/#comment-805706 Thu, 28 May 2015 18:25:58 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=60193#comment-805706 In reply to oscar ogren.

oh yeah and a foil mirror entity, i guess that adds like 8$. so 120$ total 😛

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By: oscar ogren https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-masters-2015-box-report/#comment-805700 Thu, 28 May 2015 18:24:56 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=60193#comment-805700 In reply to oscar ogren.

Never mind i think i need to redo that one cus i didnt look at different versions: 25$ commons, primval 13$ tezzeret 10$, etched champion 3,49 , battlegrace 1$ , puppeteer 3$ , daybreak 15$ , banefire 1$ , blinkmoth nexus 8$, kozilek 33$ = 112. =)=)

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By: oscar ogren https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-masters-2015-box-report/#comment-805686 Thu, 28 May 2015 18:21:11 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=60193#comment-805686 In reply to Mike Lanigan.

25$ in commons and uncommons 1x Primeval titan 15$ tezzeret 15$ etched champion 4$ battlegrace angel 2$(yeah im that desperate to get some value lol) pupeteer clique 5$ Daybreak coronet 25$ banefire 2,5$ blinkmoth nexus 11$ kozilek 45$(really dont think i get that much)

25+15+15+4+2+5+25+2,5+11+45= 149$, but thinking it will get like 30$ for kozilek so 135$ or so id say. but hey even if i do get 45$, 149$ is a pretty bad result no :)?

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By: Mike Lanigan https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-masters-2015-box-report/#comment-805520 Thu, 28 May 2015 17:21:49 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=60193#comment-805520 In reply to Oscar ogren.

I would love to see the full breakdown if you have time. Just take your pile of cards worth $5+ and look up the tcg mid of each. I am betting you it’s closer to $200. You might surprise yourself.

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By: Oscar ogren https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-masters-2015-box-report/#comment-805333 Thu, 28 May 2015 16:39:44 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=60193#comment-805333 decided to open my box and boy was that a bad choice. got like one money rare which was daybreak. got tezzeret and primeval. did get kozilek in The end but i shit you not i think my box value was about 100$. got one remand and one lightning Bolt + electrolyse. worst luck ever lol

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By: Peter McDonagh https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-masters-2015-box-report/#comment-805246 Thu, 28 May 2015 16:16:21 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=60193#comment-805246 In reply to Christopher Dube.

thanks for the correction, it’s why I always apologise upfront (Im British so we spell apologise with an S not a Z) 🙂

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By: Mike Lanigan https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-masters-2015-box-report/#comment-804396 Thu, 28 May 2015 13:16:55 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=60193#comment-804396 In reply to Christopher Dube.

Fixed. Thank you.

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By: Mike Lanigan https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-masters-2015-box-report/#comment-804375 Thu, 28 May 2015 13:11:28 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=60193#comment-804375 In reply to Chaz V.

Yes, I think the boxes won’t yield as high results in the long term. The draft format is much better than I originally anticipated though and that does play a huge role the long term value of boxes. In my opinion, the most valuable sealed boxes these days are the ones that have both valuable cards and sweet draft formats. That’s why MMA1 boxes retain their value.

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By: Christopher Dube https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-masters-2015-box-report/#comment-804328 Thu, 28 May 2015 13:00:34 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=60193#comment-804328 In reply to Peter McDonagh.

“P.S, you have a typo in the article, misspelling Confidant for Confidant, sorry to be a pedant!” Confidant for Confidant…small mistake in your correction I believe.

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By: Chaz V https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-masters-2015-box-report/#comment-804309 Thu, 28 May 2015 12:55:18 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=60193#comment-804309 Awesome article Mike, it’s good to have someone do something like this and present it for us. I think it was good to go with a case opening, since it sort of plays in line with the more “average” EV rather than just one spike box.

I find it interesting how much easier it is to have a generally better value of a box when a person hits Tarmogoyf as opposed to when you don’t. I guess that makes sense with it being the most valuable card in the set though, right? 😀

I think in the end sitting on these boxes probably won’t yield as great results as people may be hoping for. MM1 just had a bit better overall value, and it was distributed better through the rares/uncommons.

That Comet Storm tho!

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By: Peter McDonagh https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-masters-2015-box-report/#comment-804247 Thu, 28 May 2015 12:40:11 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=60193#comment-804247 Most informative, like many (I suspect), I have been sitting on the fence wondering whether to jump into the MM2015 frenzy or sit it out and see how the market settles. Sadly my wife would never permit an $850 outlay on 4 boxes for me to gamble with so I live vicariously through the likes of people such as yourself 🙂

I would be interested to see how you fare with these cards, will you sell the valuable cards and recoup your investment or hold onto them in the knowledge they may fluctuate in future? I’m a collector as opposed to a trader so I am always interested in seeing how you financiers go about your business, the decisions you make based on the information you have/what the competitive landscape is looking like/how standard and modern are changing etc.

Any follow up article would be of interest to me, not sure I can vouch for the rest of the community however.

P.S, you have a typo in the article, misspelling Confidant for Confidant, sorry to be a pedant!

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By: Mike Lanigan https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-masters-2015-box-report/#comment-804155 Thu, 28 May 2015 12:17:48 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=60193#comment-804155 In reply to James Balyszak.

Thanks for the feedback! I hope everyone found it as helpful as you did and I will most likely be pursuing this topic in further articles. Was there anything else you would have liked to see included in this article or any way it could be improved?

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