Comments on: Evolving Temur Prowess https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/10/evolving-temur-prowess/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 13 Oct 2015 02:25:07 +0000 hourly 1 By: Anonymous https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/10/evolving-temur-prowess/#comment-2122423 Tue, 13 Oct 2015 02:25:07 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=4968#comment-2122423 Simic Charm has been used to great effect as a 1x in Temur Delver lists. It seems like it could be even better here.

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By: Roland F. Rivera Santiago https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/10/evolving-temur-prowess/#comment-2122422 Mon, 12 Oct 2015 17:23:20 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=4968#comment-2122422 Some of these changes went in rather unexpected directions in my opinion, but I think you’re onto something with the pump angle. If that turns out to be successful, do you think you’ll stick with “big pump” in Become Immense, or will you consider Mutagenic Growth for its excellent synergy with Monastery Swiftspear? I’m getting the feeling that the combination of the two could be quite good.

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By: Santiago https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/10/evolving-temur-prowess/#comment-2122421 Thu, 08 Oct 2015 21:08:16 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=4968#comment-2122421 I think your original decklist is incorrect for Patrick Chapin’s Temur Prowess deck from GP Oklahoma, the original looked like this:

-1 Snapcaster
-1 Grim Lavamancer

+1 Rancor
+1 Izzet Charm

SB:

-1 Negate
+1 Feed the Clan

source from the deck tech vod: http://www.twitch.tv/magic2/v/15695467?t=2h39m23s

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By: Anonymous https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/10/evolving-temur-prowess/#comment-2122420 Thu, 08 Oct 2015 20:42:31 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=4968#comment-2122420 I am curious, would you actually consider playing spreading seas in the deck? Infect and other super fast decks I see do utilize it from time to time. To my mind, it will improve the Tron match up as well as the Jund match up. Furthermore, it boosts Abbot and you’re able to fill your hand up with another relevant cheap spell to potentially play again.

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By: Georg https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/10/evolving-temur-prowess/#comment-2122419 Thu, 08 Oct 2015 19:58:50 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=4968#comment-2122419 I like the changes you made. I ve played grixis delver for a while and this seems to be a Nice Tempo Alternative Rather than a “Bad delver” deck.

One question. Did you thought of atarkas Command? Since it can result in some Sweet Turns with all the prowes we have 🙂

Let me know your thoughts on this one.

Greez

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By: Jonathan Ahrens https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/10/evolving-temur-prowess/#comment-2122418 Thu, 08 Oct 2015 17:09:30 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=4968#comment-2122418 Thanks for another article about this great deck. I’ve been looking for a tempo deck in Modern since UR Delver got the axe and nothing scratched the itch until Chapin handed us this beauty. After playing the deck for a few weeks I agree with you that it feels a bit threat light; the games where we don’t have a turn 1 Swiftspear or at least a Serum Visions feel a lot worse due to our lack of velocity before our opponent gains a board presence.

I also toyed with the idea of one Become Immense but so far have been trying a second Rancor to good results. I’m happy to see the card almost every time I draw it, and with your addition of 2 Goblin Guides I feel like it would be even better.

I also cut the Copperline Gorge and went to 17 lands as Chapin mentioned that he often felt like he had too many in the deck. I think if you’re more willing to keep mystery hands full of Baubles and Probes having one less land feels pretty good.

Izzet charm has been extremely lackluster for me and I think it’s an easy swap. I’m still unsure on Seal of Fire however, it helps in a number of situations just by sitting on the board making things awkward for opponents. I might cut the maindeck Seal and keep the sideboard copy.

Having played Jordan Boisvert’s Monkey Grow list for a bit I don’t think Huntmaster is where you want to be with 17/18 lands. It can be rather difficult to cast and I often feel like I’d have rather spent the 4 mana doing something more productive.

I actually toyed with the idea of a 1 or 2 of Atarka’s Command in the main, have you tried it at all in testing?

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By: DNLK https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/10/evolving-temur-prowess/#comment-2122417 Thu, 08 Oct 2015 16:58:32 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=4968#comment-2122417 Saw that deck at GP Oklahoma and am eager to see more of that since I like tempo decks in general and was somewhat hyped about that one.

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