Comments on: Modern Metagame Breakdown: 11/1 – 11/30 https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/modern-metagame-breakdown-111-1130/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Wed, 06 Jan 2016 15:31:36 +0000 hourly 1 By: Sheridan Lardner https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/modern-metagame-breakdown-111-1130/#comment-2122983 Wed, 06 Jan 2016 15:31:36 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5944#comment-2122983 In reply to seneca.

Manual data collection and entry from a lot of sites. Get those googling and internet sleuthing skills in gear and you should find a trove of data.

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By: seneca https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/modern-metagame-breakdown-111-1130/#comment-2122982 Wed, 06 Jan 2016 13:42:49 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5944#comment-2122982 I was wondering were to you get all this data, because I wanted to do a project in which I did statical anylisis of a bunch of decks in modern. The problem though is that I don’t know where to get data.

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By: justaguy https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/modern-metagame-breakdown-111-1130/#comment-2122981 Sun, 13 Dec 2015 10:13:19 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5944#comment-2122981 In reply to Anonymous.

http://manadeprived.com/winning-gp-pittsburgh-with-jeskai-twin/

“If Burn decks were trending upwards, Grixis was not really where I wanted to be. Jeskai, on the other hand, can be built to crush these decks, utilizing cards like Wall of Omens, Lightning Helix, and Timely Reinforcements.”

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By: Roland F. Rivera Santiago https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/modern-metagame-breakdown-111-1130/#comment-2122980 Fri, 11 Dec 2015 20:29:22 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5944#comment-2122980 In reply to David Ernenwein.

My play with Tidebinder is to Vial it in when my Bloom opponent enters combat and neuter their Titan strategy altogether, or to play it the turn after the first swing if I don’t have Vial (while I still have some life left). It allows me to turn the corner pretty much on the spot, because I dealt with the Titan and got a body. That said, I think you’re spot-on regarding Merfolk being a bit tougher to play than it looks – that may be driving the decline, and hopefully it foreshadows a coming correction that nudges us back up to Tier 1 (since we’re a rounding error away anyway).

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By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/modern-metagame-breakdown-111-1130/#comment-2122979 Thu, 10 Dec 2015 21:56:20 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5944#comment-2122979 In reply to Roland F. Rivera Santiago.

In my experience, a lot of local players picked up Merfolk when Harbinger was printed thanks to the hype surrounding the card and then have since fallen off thanks to A) Harbinger not being as useful as advertised B) Twin’s decline removing a good matchup and C) Merfolk is a lot harder to play than it looks. I saw several other Merfolk decks at the PIQ so there may already be an uptick in progress. Also, Tidebinder Mage is alright against Bloom but in my experience if Primeval Titan is tapping so Harbinger is live then you’re winning anyway.

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By: Anonymous https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/modern-metagame-breakdown-111-1130/#comment-2122978 Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:22:21 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5944#comment-2122978 Do you think this is why Bianchi favored Jeskai Twin over straight UR? White has the sideboard cards to contain extremely linear tier 2 strategies, something black or red don’t have on their own.

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By: Sheridan Lardner https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/modern-metagame-breakdown-111-1130/#comment-2122977 Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:09:30 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5944#comment-2122977 In reply to Roland F. Rivera Santiago.

You and I continue to raise our eyebrows at Merfolk’s middling performance. Maybe people just don’t think the deck is “sexy” enough and would rather play around with Nacatl and company? Or maybe the deck has been around so long that people don’t know when its well-positioned and when it’s weaker? Definitely an interesting thing to keep tracking: as you said, Bloom’s rise could also have something to do with it.

Agreed that it’s important to talk about them both collectively and individually. I’ll be doing this as much as possible in all future metagame articles too. The Grixis and Knightfall issues will eventually sort themselves out, but for now, I think we’re being smart by staying inclusive.

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By: Roland F. Rivera Santiago https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/modern-metagame-breakdown-111-1130/#comment-2122976 Thu, 10 Dec 2015 17:47:32 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5944#comment-2122976 Great article, Sheridan. Merfolk’s drop has also mystified me, given that the deck has a toolbox that’s very well suited to take down most of the decks that are currently on the upswing (Twin, Jund, Gruul Zoo). My guess is that some of the players rocking Merfolk at the time of the last update were still riding the wave of popularity (aka flavor-of-the-month players), then switched to something else once the new hotness came around. I predict a bit of a bounce-back effect, once people figure out how juicy the meta is for them. Bloom is the most problematic of the decks on the upswing at the moment, and I’d peg that as around 50/50, with Harbinger of the Tides, Tidebinder Mage, and counterspells playing huge roles. Burn replacing Affinity as the #1 aggro deck wouldn’t hurt, either.

I’m with you in that URx Twin is easier to lump together than BGx Midrange (let alone RGx Zoo), but I applaud your decision to speak of them together as well as separately. It adds depth to the report. I also think that until a consensus list emerges for Grixis Midrange (last I checked, there was still some variation), it’s probably best to lump them all into the same category for counting purposes, as it is reflective of the meta’s interest in the deck. Same goes for Knightfall, though I’m personally partial to the Bant Company build. Do you have any predictions as to which of these variants will eventually win out?

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By: Sheridan Lardner https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/modern-metagame-breakdown-111-1130/#comment-2122975 Thu, 10 Dec 2015 17:00:33 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5944#comment-2122975 In reply to Anonymous.

Glad you enjoyed it!

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By: Sheridan Lardner https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/modern-metagame-breakdown-111-1130/#comment-2122974 Thu, 10 Dec 2015 17:00:16 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5944#comment-2122974 In reply to Álvaro Castro.

Poor Grixis Delver. I really liked that deck and was excited to see a Delver variant succeed after the TC ban. It was also a very grassroots deck, arising in a time when pros weren’t paying much attention to Modern. It will probably come back, but it has a lot of bad matchups in the top tiers right now. As Jordan talks about a lot, I also think Disrupting Shoal is criminally underplayed in Modern and wouldn’t be surprised if some Delver build (probably not Grixis) uses the Shoal to push back into tier 2.

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By: Sheridan Lardner https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/modern-metagame-breakdown-111-1130/#comment-2122973 Thu, 10 Dec 2015 16:58:38 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5944#comment-2122973 In reply to amalek0.

That’s a good interpretation, although in fairness to my missing on this prediction, I based it in no small part on the metagame policing the deck. That didn’t happen, so I’m happy to admit my misplaced faith. I do think it’s possible we see an Amulet Bloom downtick this month, but there also aren’t a lot of big events to give players innovation opportunities like this. So it seems more likely that Bloom stays right where it is through December.

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By: Sheridan Lardner https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/modern-metagame-breakdown-111-1130/#comment-2122972 Thu, 10 Dec 2015 16:56:40 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5944#comment-2122972 In reply to Beryl Lasko.

Thanks! I also look forward to writing them, and I’m glad they’re proving useful!

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By: Anonymous https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/modern-metagame-breakdown-111-1130/#comment-2122971 Thu, 10 Dec 2015 04:49:54 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5944#comment-2122971 Awesome article, as usual. :)))

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By: Álvaro Castro https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/modern-metagame-breakdown-111-1130/#comment-2122970 Thu, 10 Dec 2015 00:42:27 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5944#comment-2122970 Great article Sheridan! Thanks for all the hard work you put into these. I believe a part of Amulet’s uptick can also be attributed to the ban talk and how some people may want to try/play it before the announcement.

On another note, Grixis Delver has finally fallen out of Tier 2. Not that this should surprise anyone, but I think it’s worth noting. Will we ever see it as a top contender again?

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By: amalek0 https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/modern-metagame-breakdown-111-1130/#comment-2122969 Wed, 09 Dec 2015 19:57:24 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5944#comment-2122969 I wouldn’t say that the bloom prediction was wrong per-se–Rather, I would say that the metagame failed to appropriately police as it should, which to me indicates either a temporary blip, or the beginnings of a rise to prominence for bloom. I hope it’s a blip; modern is capable of policing itself reasonably well, as the hate exists to beat bloom. It will be disturbing if bloom actually maintains its rise to prominence, because if it sticks in tier one for too long, it will in fact merit bannings in the same way that storm did–tier one AND too consistent of a turn 3 kill in practice.

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By: Beryl Lasko https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/modern-metagame-breakdown-111-1130/#comment-2122968 Wed, 09 Dec 2015 18:29:15 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5944#comment-2122968 Outstanding article! I am really looking forward to reading these every month!

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