Comments on: The Best Card This Week: Analyzing the Atlanta Invi Results https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/12/atlanta-invi-results/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Sat, 10 Dec 2016 00:51:48 +0000 hourly 1 By: Paul Bouhier https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/12/atlanta-invi-results/#comment-2127402 Sat, 10 Dec 2016 00:51:48 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12458#comment-2127402 In reply to Alex Bonin.

Wafo-Tapa style jeskai control already put up some good results on mtgo and made top 4 at GP Dallas. UW Control has also seen some success online lately. Grixis control seems to be more popular now than before, after Buckhart’s performance at GP Dallas. I think that Ux control players are about to find some good tuned lists for the current metagame

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By: Paul Bouhier https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/12/atlanta-invi-results/#comment-2127401 Sat, 10 Dec 2016 00:45:00 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12458#comment-2127401 In reply to Roland F. Rivera Santiago.

Actually UWx control is very bad against dredge. Against burn and jund it can be a very solid choice depending on your build. Burn can be a really good match up if your build rely on wall of omens, kitchen finks and spell snare and UWx definitely has the tools to grind Jund out (and a resolved liliana or unanswered dark confident are annoying but not game over by any means). Tron is bad indeed and will require some sideboard tech such as clock+disruption with stony sielnce and geist of saint traft. Against infect, blessed alliance is a really good way to improve the match up and is good enough to play main deck. As a UWx control player, I can tell you the archetype is totally playable but need a fine tuning and is extremely bad against dredge

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By: Roland F. Rivera Santiago https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/12/atlanta-invi-results/#comment-2127400 Fri, 09 Dec 2016 17:46:15 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12458#comment-2127400 In reply to Laura Tran.

Yes, it’s pretty easy to play around, and it hasn’t made a notable dent in my winrate. Just another thing to expect and prepare for.

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By: Roland F. Rivera Santiago https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/12/atlanta-invi-results/#comment-2127399 Fri, 09 Dec 2016 17:45:33 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12458#comment-2127399 In reply to David Ernenwein.

It can do its thing against Dredge, but it falls flat against Burn (too slow), Infect (not enough cheap spot removal, especially post-Blossoming Defense), Jund (resolved Liliana = game over), or Tron (goes way over the top). Beating the top deck doesn’t do you much good if you get smashed by the rest of the top 5.

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By: Laura Tran https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/12/atlanta-invi-results/#comment-2127398 Thu, 08 Dec 2016 22:20:35 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12458#comment-2127398 In reply to Roland F. Rivera Santiago.

I agree Anger is pretty good positioned right now, but as a Merfolk player it’s quite easy to play around it, at least in my experience. Cursecatcher helps buying a turn, Adept cycles, it can’t get Mutavault and we have Vial end of turn. I won’t be too scared as long as not too many decks are playing it maindeck, which I belive will not happen.

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By: Alex Bonin https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/12/atlanta-invi-results/#comment-2127397 Thu, 08 Dec 2016 20:30:34 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12458#comment-2127397 Mutagenic Growth and Gitaxian Probe both seem pretty ubiquitous right now. Upon reading the article’s title, I expected one of the two phyrexian mana spells to be the best card. Regarding the appraisal of Anderson’s Jund list: one Seal of Fire is a pretty trifling omission in an absurdly fast format where it might never show up when it is good or, worse, at a time when something better is needed. Todd also omitted Collective Brutality, which seems like a strictly better singleton, that still didn’t cut it. With all of the M.Growths being played, removal spells that can’t handle */3 creatures seem pretty bad.

I’m excited to see if a grindy blue-based control deck will eventually capitalize on what’s going on.

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By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/12/atlanta-invi-results/#comment-2127396 Thu, 08 Dec 2016 19:25:43 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12458#comment-2127396 In reply to Zach Stackhouse.

I’ve been saying that for some time now. I don’t see anything inherent in the format keeping one out other than players not finding the right shell.

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By: James Luckhurst https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/12/atlanta-invi-results/#comment-2127395 Thu, 08 Dec 2016 18:55:41 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12458#comment-2127395 I would rather play Ensnaring Bridge over Anger of the Gods, but that’s really only because i play Lantern. lol

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By: Zach Stackhouse https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/12/atlanta-invi-results/#comment-2127394 Thu, 08 Dec 2016 18:49:20 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12458#comment-2127394 So board wipes are good, so is exiling due to dredge. Am I missing something, or does that just sound like a UWx control deck running supreme verdict could fit into this particular meta?

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By: Roland F. Rivera Santiago https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/12/atlanta-invi-results/#comment-2127393 Thu, 08 Dec 2016 18:29:50 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12458#comment-2127393 You’re right in that Anger is exquisitely positioned right now. As a Merfolk player, it’s left a mark on many of my games. It’s so good, that it’s somewhat halted the trend of midrange decks getting squeezed out of the format – take a look at MTGGoldfish’s results listing, and you’ll see Jund is a Top-3 deck, Bant Eldrazi (yes, that’s a midrange deck) is in the Top-10, and even Abzan is hanging around. Furthermore, previously ultra-fringe decks like Skred have a small, but steady presence in the metagame, and Grixis Control is also doing pretty well. Most of those decks either have Anger of the Gods, or can fight it off pretty effectively. I’ve had to make edits to my counterspell lineup as Merfolk to address the fact that it’s coming out of many sideboard nowadays.

As for Sun and Moon… I think the reason it does well is that it’s basically hate card roulette. It is a collection of cards various decks really don’t want to see rolled into a single shell. If it finds the right hate cards, it stuffs you. If it doesn’t, you run it over. In a metagame that features linears with such a wide variety of angles of attack, a deck that attempts to collect all of the ways to shut them down and then staples some win conditions on the back end was a logical conclusion. I think the deck is good, and recent results bear that out. Nahiri may not be the optimal finisher all the time, but (fortunately for the deck) it has a wide variety of “end-the-game” cards to choose from, provided the hate cards buy it time to cast them.

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By: Lucas Hansen https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/12/atlanta-invi-results/#comment-2127392 Thu, 08 Dec 2016 18:24:45 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12458#comment-2127392 First off, thanks for the great article.

I personally love Anger of the Gods. I play a Mardu Midrange deck wth Anger as a playset in the main. I have found it to be one of the most useful and underrated cards in the current meta along with Thalia, Heretic Cathar. I believe that you didn’t stress how devestating this card is for Dredge. I have had several Dredge opponents scoop at a second Anger of the game.

Again thanks for a great article. Maybe do an article of underrated cards?

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