Comments on: Modern Top 5: Utility Cards https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/05/modern-top-5-utility-cards/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Fri, 11 Aug 2017 18:23:36 +0000 hourly 1 By: David Hamlin https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/05/modern-top-5-utility-cards/#comment-2128321 Fri, 11 Aug 2017 18:23:36 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14264#comment-2128321 I just noticed no one ever brought up Runed Halo. Thoughts? I’d probably say 3/4/1.

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By: Mitchell Stephens https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/05/modern-top-5-utility-cards/#comment-2128320 Mon, 15 May 2017 02:50:07 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14264#comment-2128320 In reply to Jordan Boisvert.

Duress can hit Planeswalkers, enchantments, and artifacts as well as instants and sorceries. If Collective Brutality truly had a duress mode it would be an absolutely bonkers card.

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By: Chris Striker https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/05/modern-top-5-utility-cards/#comment-2128319 Wed, 10 May 2017 17:19:12 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14264#comment-2128319 In reply to Jordan Boisvert.

Thanks for taking the time to write me back :). That was a really useful, insightful comment.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/05/modern-top-5-utility-cards/#comment-2128318 Wed, 10 May 2017 07:20:46 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14264#comment-2128318 In reply to Chris Striker.

Realistically, running it as a “gotcha” surprise card just for Game 1 is a little weird, since opponents will just put you on it in G1 anyway (staple as a 1- or 2-of). You are less likely to have it post-board in a lot of matchups, so if you want to “get” opponents, you should just leave it in 🙂

Best way to understand this kind of thing is to just jam a lot of games. Not only will you get a sense of which matchups TBR is best in, but you’ll start to understand which players to leave it in against based on how they navigate the red zone against you.

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By: Chris Striker https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/05/modern-top-5-utility-cards/#comment-2128317 Tue, 09 May 2017 19:37:56 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14264#comment-2128317 In reply to Jordan Boisvert.

Lol! Tbr has given me more headaches than any other card in that deck, so I’m more likely to be doing it wrong. I’ve typically boarded out tbr (I run 1 tbr and 1 ghor clan rampager ) consistently as part of my flex slots, and even against tokens would rather have a sweeper in most instances.

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By: Rj Gaskill https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/05/modern-top-5-utility-cards/#comment-2128316 Tue, 09 May 2017 07:55:43 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14264#comment-2128316 In reply to Jordan Boisvert.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/05/modern-top-5-utility-cards/#comment-2128315 Tue, 09 May 2017 00:46:47 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14264#comment-2128315 In reply to Darcy Hartwick.

I would rate Cryptic 2/3/1. At 6 points, it’s significantly worse than Ghost Quarter.

None of its modal combinations are particularly cheap—the best bargain is draw + counter, for which 1UUU is still quite steep IMO (Leak is the benchmark counterspell in the format, and paying UU for a cantrip is hardly appealing). As for flexibility, Cryptic is rarely truly “dead,” but spending an entire turn’s worth of mana tapping and drawing isn’t anything to write home about. “Surviving” a turn generally costs your whole turn anyway because of CC’s mana cost. That’s when Cryptic is at its worst—when opponents are beating you down. That it can’t really address boards of creatures permanently, or even help dig into real answers with any kind of selection, hurts its flexibility for me. And as you mentioned, the card is very tricky to splash.

Keep in mind that a low score based on these parameters doesn’t make the card bad or unplayable. Indeed, CC does see play; similarly, I swear by 4 Dismembers in Eldrazi Stompy, and wouldn’t leave home without Simic Charm in Temur Delver or Bauble in DSJ. One thing all these cards have in common is that they’re pretty narrow in terms of splashability; very few decks want the effect, but of course those that do, do.

Kolaghan’s is much better than Cryptic for our purposes. It’s more splashable than Cryptic, is relevant in more gamestates (helps stop a beatdown by killing a dude and returning a fatty; “locks” topdecking opponents out like CC does with the discard mode), and has better effects (2 damage and return a guy are insane modes in this format). I would give it 3/5/2. So why didn’t it make the list? Cause I forgot about it! I think with any best of list, cards are always going to slip through the cracks.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/05/modern-top-5-utility-cards/#comment-2128314 Tue, 09 May 2017 00:46:09 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14264#comment-2128314 In reply to raude.

It’s impossible to completely divorce subjectivity from a Top 5 list. The point of the ratings system in this article is to facilitate constructive discussion about why choices are right or wrong, and of course the numbers themselves will change depending on other options and metagame shifts. I’m sorry you feel that way about my content and am open to suggestions; I actually worked quite hard on this article!

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/05/modern-top-5-utility-cards/#comment-2128313 Tue, 09 May 2017 00:45:10 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14264#comment-2128313 In reply to Alexander Rittershaus.

It’s Ghost Quarter’s original Dissension art.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/05/modern-top-5-utility-cards/#comment-2128312 Tue, 09 May 2017 00:44:57 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14264#comment-2128312 In reply to Zach Howell.

Well, I stated in the introduction that splashability was one of my three parameters. “Best” is subjective, and to me, a card can’t be the “best” if it isn’t playable across multiple archetypes. If you disagree with my definitions, I would be interested in hearing others and in reading your own Top 5 list!

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/05/modern-top-5-utility-cards/#comment-2128311 Tue, 09 May 2017 00:44:41 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14264#comment-2128311 In reply to Rj Gaskill.

Dismember doesn’t hit larger creatures and does nothing on a creatureless board, making it significantly less flexible than cards like Bolt. It’s also a liability at low life points. Modern decks are usually built with Burn and other aggressive strategies in mind, and already budget their life points closely with fetches, shocks, fastlands, etc. according to the amount of aggression they think they can weather. Dismember throws those ratios off and limits it to decks that don’t take enough damage, which are relatively rare. Colorless Eldrazi and Merfolk are examples of decks with life points to throw around AND that don’t have black/red/white, making them good fits for Dismember.

I would rate Dismember 3/2/3 today, which is less than it would’ve gotten pre-Push; recently, most decks in the market for a one-mana removal spell are already in red, white, or black anyway.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/05/modern-top-5-utility-cards/#comment-2128310 Tue, 09 May 2017 00:43:59 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14264#comment-2128310 In reply to Jordan Corgatelli.

Isn’t it? I disagree with some of your ratings, but as will always be the case with card evaluation, a degree of subjectivity is inevitable. The idea with this article was to break down the subjective aspect into smaller sections to make it easier to discuss and argue about a card’s merit with others.

For instance, I would give Relic a 3 on flexibility (one more than you) since its floor is a new card, but only a 3 on splashability (one less than you) since so many decks use their graveyards enough that nuking both isn’t feasible.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/05/modern-top-5-utility-cards/#comment-2128309 Tue, 09 May 2017 00:43:34 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14264#comment-2128309 In reply to Michael Lewis.

Not as the examplar of flexibility; indeed, I only gave Charm a 3 on flexibility. It’s a card I like a lot and have played with a great deal, and one I have frequently described to pundits as a utility tool. It made sense to me to use Simic Charm as an example utility spell so that I could easily outline the parameters used to analyze the other cards in this article. As for Surgical, the card only has one mode, but it’s far from a card that only does one thing. I’d argue it has much wider applications than Simic Charm and is therefore more flexible. Your comment leads me to believe you have not played with Surgical a lot (don’t mean to sound presumptuous, but yours is just a viewpoint I’ve heard plenty of times from those new to the card and never from experienced Modern players).

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/05/modern-top-5-utility-cards/#comment-2128308 Tue, 09 May 2017 00:41:53 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14264#comment-2128308 In reply to Chris Striker.

In my experience playing Shadow decks (Jund and otherwise), TBR stays in for any matchup where opponents are liable to generate chump blockers or I need to race a linear deck. It also stays in in some fair matchups when I predict my opponent won’t expect it. A good deal of those scenarios call for Surgical as well. I have played games with both in the same configuration, but maybe I was just doin it wrong :O

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/05/modern-top-5-utility-cards/#comment-2128307 Tue, 09 May 2017 00:39:04 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14264#comment-2128307 In reply to Mitchell Stephens.

Not quite, but it frequently is. Perhaps this analogy’s a stretch 😉

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By: Chris Striker https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/05/modern-top-5-utility-cards/#comment-2128306 Mon, 08 May 2017 18:37:15 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14264#comment-2128306 This is an interesting article Jordan, and I like the metric you’ve put together to evaluate the card choices. I’d be interested in what cards scored 6-10 (so maybe do some top 10s now and again?). I did have one minor quibble, not with your metric or card choice, but with your surgical analysis. As you’ve noted, surgical is typically a sideboard card in shadow decks, and battle rage typically a game 1 gotcha that you side out for cards that actually do something, so I think it’s a very rare situation where you’d see surgical and battle rage inter same 60.

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By: Mitchell Stephens https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/05/modern-top-5-utility-cards/#comment-2128305 Mon, 08 May 2017 16:04:56 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14264#comment-2128305 It’s NOT Duress. It makes my eyes bleed everytime someone says that.

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By: Michael Lewis https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/05/modern-top-5-utility-cards/#comment-2128304 Sat, 06 May 2017 17:28:13 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14264#comment-2128304 In reply to Jordan Boisvert.

You held up Simic Charm as the exemplar of flexibility as part of your definition of utility. I think you got away from that in the your surgical extraction choice like previous commenter says…the card does one thing. Like it’s name suggests, this is not an example of a tool that can be used to wide effect. It is designed for a narrow, specific purpose; as per its flavor.

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By: Jordan Corgatelli https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/05/modern-top-5-utility-cards/#comment-2128303 Sat, 06 May 2017 14:10:47 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14264#comment-2128303 relic of progenitus
Power : 2
Flexibility: 2
Splashability: 4

Kolaghan’s command
Power : 3
Flexibility: 5
Splashability: 2

Traverse the Ulvinwald
Power: 2
Flexibility: 3
Splashability: 4

Snapcaster mage
Power: 3
Flexibility: 4
Splashability:2

Abrupt decay
Power: 4
Flexibility: 3
Splashability: 2

This is fun.

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By: Rj Gaskill https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/05/modern-top-5-utility-cards/#comment-2128302 Sat, 06 May 2017 13:56:05 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14264#comment-2128302 Hello, I enjoyed the article, however I am curious why dismember didn’t occupy a spot on the top 5. As a colorless removal spell, it seems very versitile especially in a format with tasigurs and gurmag anglers trying to get around fatal push.

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