Comments on: Ringing in the New Year: Ravnica Allegiance Spoilers https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/01/ringing-in-the-new-year-ravnica-allegiance-spoilers/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Thu, 10 Jan 2019 14:01:33 +0000 hourly 1 By: David Hassell https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/01/ringing-in-the-new-year-ravnica-allegiance-spoilers/#comment-2129820 Thu, 10 Jan 2019 14:01:33 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=19334#comment-2129820 Oof I disagree quite strongly on Growth Spiral and the instant speed being not so relevant. I don’t know if you want to fudge your manabase for it (tip: you don’t) but you completely undersold it. The flash on scout is incredibly useful. Although Ponza isn’t really a deck and field of ruin costs 3 (basically), there’s so much more going on.
1. Field of Ruin decks tend to be full of answer cards, so the 3-mana Field is really relevant throughout a long game (vs UW as an example). So much so, that I’d cut Azusa before Scout in that MU.
2. Some postboard games people want to mess with your mana (think fulminator mage). Scout is better there at protecting.
3. Bojuka Bog at instant speed is roughly 85,241% better than sorcery speed, beating decks like Storm and Dredge on the spot.
4. Flashing in a land during combat lets you pretend you have an amulet when you don’t (you can pick a bounceland + slayers’ and flash in slayers so it untaps). This requires quite a bit of mana when you use Growth Spiral but again, it’s not irrelevant.

You only have to look at the fact that people really don’t want to play Skyshroud Ranger to understand that instant speed is significantly better. People have tried more rangers and always cut them back as much as they can.

IF we end up in a world where blue is the more important colour in amulet, then Growth Spiral will likely end up in the deck. There’s a lot of small upsides which add up, but you do still want consistent mana in your 4-colour, 15-tapped lands deck – so we likely don’t want it this week. But the upside of flashing lands is completely undersold in this article in my opinion. I believe if Stirrings gets banned (eek ban talk), 1 possible option is to play more blue for serum visions in its place, and if that happens, i’ll be moving to Growth Spiral over Explore (i’m not a fan of the 29-land 5 scout lists and still run explore, which may not be the most popular list at this point).

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By: Zachariah Howell https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/01/ringing-in-the-new-year-ravnica-allegiance-spoilers/#comment-2129819 Sun, 06 Jan 2019 17:57:14 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=19334#comment-2129819 In reply to Major Tom.

Sphinx of Foresight could fit the bill in Living End or Restore Balance, where it fits the >=3 CMC requirement. The scrying is a pretty rare effect in those decks, and both cast some 4CMC cards.

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By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/01/ringing-in-the-new-year-ravnica-allegiance-spoilers/#comment-2129818 Thu, 03 Jan 2019 03:12:29 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=19334#comment-2129818 In reply to Major Tom.

Interesting. This is one of those cards everyone wrestles with for months and then either forgets or busts the format. We’ll see.

It wasn’t much of a factor. Explore does basically the same thing, isn’t always good enough to be played, and in a deck like Amulet cantripping just isn’t a big deal. Between Tolaria West and Ancient Stirrings they can find what they need and drawing one extra card just isn’t very impressive.

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By: Major Tom https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/01/ringing-in-the-new-year-ravnica-allegiance-spoilers/#comment-2129817 Thu, 03 Jan 2019 02:20:35 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=19334#comment-2129817 The only thing I can think is this: the free scry allows a deck to configure its draw AND have a turn one play. At the moment, no card does that. Serum visions draws a card and scries AS the turn one play. But a deck whose turn one is reactive, and may be playing on the draw, that would be powerful. This type of deck should either 1) be able to pitch it to another card before turn 4, or 2) brainstorm it away with Jace the mindsculptor?

Play testing is necessary. I’m not really sure. But I had one other question. Did any of your friends that run titan amulet say anything about the extra card draw from growth spiral or do they not see that as a big upside?

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By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/01/ringing-in-the-new-year-ravnica-allegiance-spoilers/#comment-2129816 Thu, 03 Jan 2019 01:22:20 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=19334#comment-2129816 In reply to Major Tom.

That’s another card that seems like it should be really strong, but where? Setting your next three draws (four if you mulligan first) sounds busted, especially in a high velocity or combo deck. The thing is, playing a card just to start the game with it is a dicey proposition. Starting the game with it is obviously great, but is it still good if you don’t?
Seriously, what deck wants the actual creature? I can’t think of a deck that wants a 4/4 flyer for four. There’s just so much competition at that mana slot in control or aggro decks that I’m uncertain any deck actually wants the creature. Yes, scrying every turn is powerful but if that’s the payoff why not save a mana and run Thassa?
If the Sphinx is going to see play, I think it should be regarded like Simian Spirit Guide. The body is irrelevant for the actual utility, we’re here to have it in our opening hand. Actually casting Sphinx is the failstate. The question is what to do with Sphinx once you’re past the start of the game. If a deck exists that needs blue creatures to pitch for something, then Sphinx is a natural inclusion. If not, I don’t know why I want to draw that card.

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By: Major Tom https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/01/ringing-in-the-new-year-ravnica-allegiance-spoilers/#comment-2129815 Thu, 03 Jan 2019 00:12:52 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=19334#comment-2129815 What’s your opinion about the sphinx of foresight? I’ve read a lot of different opinions. It’s a mediocre creature for a modern 4 drop, but I also feel like the ability to scry 3 for free on turn one during the upkeep is vastly underrated because of the vanilla creature.

In a deck that needs to hit its curve and needs cards to pitch, let’s say to collective brutality, doesnt this fit the bill perfectly?

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