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One of my favorite personal trips was one I took a few years ago when I visited Quiet Speculation member pi in Amsterdam. Not only was he a gracious host, but we also saw all the sites and immersed ourselves in Dutch cultureâI even had a chance to ride a bicycle throughout the city (it had been a decade or more since my last bike rideâŠitâs a good thing riding a bike is like, well, riding a bike!).
While I was there, I had a rare opportunity to meet an influential member of the Magic community: the creator of MTGStocks. We talked all things MTG finance and data management, and have since kept in contact to engage on Twitter. Over the past week, he and I have had a discourse on calculating the values of Magic cards. While it sounds trivial, this is no easy featâit requires a boatload of accurate data and a smart-enough algorithm to pick up on outliers and imposters.
In fact, determining the value of oneâs collection has always been a bit nebulousâŠ
My History with Card Valuation
When I first started playing Magic back in 1997, there were a couple ways to look up card prices. I suspect the internet was an option, but this was before many households (including my own) had internet. So I had to rely on the latest issue of InQuest or Scrye magazine I had in my possession, or else I had to literally phone a hobby shop and ask them for a price. My step-brother and I have made multiple trades using the latter, by the way. Itâs not efficient!
I have to imagine trading and buying/selling during this time before widespread internet was a bit like the wild west. Without access to hard data, cards had relative value more than absolute value. In other words, I knew I valued Shivan Dragon higher than Serra Angel, so a trade involving those two cards would have to be balanced out with additional cards. If there was a card we desperately wanted, we would give up whatever weâd have to in order to obtain it.
Fast forwarding some years, the internet revolutionized trading and card valuation. Before TCGplayer and eBayâs completed listings, I relied heavily on FindMagicCards.com for my pricing data; some of my earliest articles may have even used graphs from the site to highlight pricing trends. Then I was lucky enough to receive an invite to Apathy House, where you could enter cards for a trade and quickly determine the values of each side. I have no clue where these sites got their data from, but we made huge trading decisions based on them all the same.
It wasnât for another couple years when TCGplayer came along and revolutionized the industry.
TCGplayerâs Influence on Card Values
TCGplayer: a site dedicated to buying and selling trading cards. Once this site became widespread and opened up to individual sellers (not just large stores), TCGplayer suddenly gained access to boatloads of pricing data. They could track what cards were being sold for, what conditions, how often, and how quickly. With this information, they could calculate a value for every card.
TCGplayer isnât shy about this information. They boldly claim on their site that they are âharnessing the power of hundreds of brick and mortar stores, online stores, and individual sellersâ to âput together the most comprehensive Price Guide available anywhere.â They go on to claim they âserve up over four million pages of pricing data each day through [their] popular marketplace and via partner websites and mobile applications.â
With access to so much data, they truly have become the place for pricing information. Then we have sites like MTGStocks accumulating the data TCGplayer provides to offer different trends, analyses, etc. The flow of data is like a well-oiled machine at this point, and these sites have proven accurate and reliable for the vast majority of cards.
It Works Except For When It Doesnât
I wish this was the end of the article, and everyone could live happily ever after, knowing precisely what their collection is worth and when. But if youâre reading this article, youâve probably been around long enough to know thatâs not the caseâespecially when dealing in Reserved List cards as I am wont to do. When dealing in cards with low volume or a buyout (or both), the pricing data becomes a littleâŠquestionable.
Consider, for example, the top mover of the day when cards from The List are toggled on for display:
Are The List copies of Rest in Peace truly worth nearly $4000 now? Of course not. Visiting TCGplayer directly, we can readily see that thereâs currently only one copy in stock listed at this ridiculous price point, while recently sold copies have gone for $6-$8
Thus, the âlisted median priceâ is being manipulated by the lone seller with inventory, creating this artificial spike. The âmarket priceâ on the other hand, is a mysteriously proprietary calculation TCGplayer performs to estimate a cardâs value based on recent sales data. So is âmarket priceâ the de facto source for accurate pricing data?
Not exactly.
When sales volume is low, or when a card spikes, the market price can lag the true market value significantly. For example, I just looked up Alpha Northern Paladin, one of many Alpha rares that shot up in price over the past year.
That $499.00 market price was probably correct a year ago, but today it is way off. Ironically, the listed median price is much closer to the cardâs true current valueâCard Kingdom pays $1260 for near mint copies on their buylist, more than double âmarket priceâ. If you look at the âLatest Salesâ section, you can see why the market price is so far off. There is no data there, probably because a copy of this card hasnât sold on TCGplayer in quite a while.
Because TCGplayer keeps their algorithms confidential, itâs impossible to look at these data and decipher the source of error. But the fact remains: while the data is extremely useful in most cases, there are situations where thereâs room for improvement.
eBayâs Entry to this Space
TCGplayer is a website with enough data to provide reliable pricing. But itâs not the only one. eBay also has access to a ton of collectible card price data through its platform, and they recently begun harvesting that data to provide a service much like TCGplayer. Check out this email I received from eBay last week:
Track card prices over time? Track my collectionâs value? Obtain reliable pricing information for cards? Can you think of any other sites that offer these services?
It really looks like eBay is going after the collectible card market that TCGplayer has dominated for years. Iâm not sure if theyâll succeed, but eBay is a publicly-traded company with a market cap of $46 billionâthey must be significantly larger than TCGplayer. Therefore, they at least have access to more resources (whether or not they apply sufficient resources to this endeavor is yet to be seen). Thereâs certainly potential for eBay to bring some much-needed competition to this space.
Since I was invited to beta test this new service, I thought Iâd give it a whirl to see what the interface looked like. Currently, most of the features are available only on mobile, so I shared a couple screenshots from my cell phone below.
It looks like eBay is pulling pricing for cards I purchased from the site over some period of time. I think itâs been over a year since I bought the cards pictured though, so Iâm not sure how far back the site is going. Whatâs more, of course, the site doesnât automatically remove cards from inventory if I sell them on a different platform, so the collection would have to be manually maintained.
Still, I see some potential. eBay is using their own proprietary calculation to determine a cardâs value. However, Iâm concerned that their calculation will fall into the same trap as TCGplayerâs when it comes to sparsely sold cards. For example, I wonder how eBayâs pricing feature would estimate the value of an Alpha Northern Paladin, given the variation in completed listings on the site:
By the way, whoever purchased that $340 copy got an absolute steal! They could flip that card to Card Kingdom immediately and likely double their money. But I digressâŠ
What will eBay do with this data? Average the three listings? Report the most recently sold (which would undershoot the cardâs true worth)? Judge by conditions inputted? This is one of the shortcomings of eBay relative to TCGplayer. On TCGplayer, critical data such as set name and condition is structured. That is, there are a set number of options to choose form and every listing must include these selections. On eBay, anything goes. A card can be listed as âEXâ or âSPâ or âlightly playedâ and they could all mean the same thing. On the other hand, a card could be listed with a picture and no condition or set name in the actual text. How will eBay handle such freeform, unstructured data? This is yet to be seen, but they certainly have the resources to do it.
Wrapping It Up
Competition is great for the market, because it forces innovation and drives down prices. If eBay truly attempts to create a collection tracker to compete with TCGplayer (and other sites), this could bode very well for the player base. But I am not truly convinced this will be successful. The data is available, and eBay definitely has enough to provide something of value. But the lack of structure to some of the necessary variables makes me weary of the end productâs fidelity.
I imagine that cards that sell in a more consistent range, such as cards printed in the past decade, will be robust and accurate in eBayâs tracker tool. But for older cards with sparser sales and larger spreads across conditions, I donât know how eBayâs algorithm will perform. If the calculator struggles, I donât see this being any better than TCGplayer.
This is why my go-to source for values on older cards remains Card Kingdom. They are just a single vendor, so of course, this skews data. But their algorithm that tracks their own sales has proven robust and agile enough for me. Their buylist changes every day, their pricing is constantly updated based on their inventory and sales, and their price isnât easily manipulated by sellers who list $6 cards for $1000.
Whatâs more, their buylist is immediately available to me. If I want to convert a card for cash, I know I can do so by selling to Card Kingdom and I can calculate precisely what I will earn. With eBay and TCGplayer, thereâs no guaranteed sale like there is with a buylist. I can try listing a card at the âmarket priceâ or the âlast sold eBay priceâ, but the card could sit there and rot for weeks or months without a sale. A buylist price may be lower, but itâs virtually guaranteed and I put a lot of stock in this fact.
Will eBayâs new tool revolutionize the CCG industry as they advertise? Iâm skeptical. But I do think see it as a huge positive that theyâre trying. Weâve come a long way from the days of calling up local game stores or using monthly magazines to determine pricing. At the same time, I feel like weâve been fairly stagnant in this space over the past few years. Itâs probably time for another disruptor to come in and change the game once again. Maybe itâll be eBay. Maybe itâll be someone else. Either way, thereâs room for improvement and Iâm excited to see a heavy hitter like eBay take a stab at making card pricing easier and more accurate than ever before.
My valuation is normally based on the cheapest one on the market. It’s the price at which you can still technically buy it. If there was a chart that gave me that information also based on the card’s condittion, I would find it extremely useful. It’s very time consuming to search card by card waiting to see what pops up. If all that information was provided in one single place, it could save hours of repetitive searches. It would provide a highly accurate information of their market value.
I still remember that hilarious bike ride! You were a danger on the road! đ